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>Arguments about whether cows are "alive" or "feel pain" the same way humans do inevitably conclude with an acknowledgement that they probably do in all likelih
by trevyn 7y ago
>Arguments about whether cows are "alive" or "feel pain" the same way humans do inevitably conclude with an acknowledgement that they probably do in all likelihood
Strawman; they logically are not “alive” in the same way humans are and cannot “feel pain” the same way humans do.
- moab 7y agoBy the argument you make below ("The brains are different.") you could use this argument to deny the humanity, or capability of feeling pain of anyone that isn't yourself. This argument quickly slides into solipsism, which is not a useful philosophical position to take in a world inhabited by agents that pass our individual Turing tests.
- throwaway5752 7y agoOkay, show your proof.
- trevyn 7y agoThe brains are different.
- Supermancho 7y ago> they logically are not “alive” in the same way humans are My brain is not the same as yours. People who have live with 1 hemisphere are (likely) different than your brain (or however you want to define brain similarity). Your reasoning is not a sufficient bar to make an appeal to logic, on its own. Currently, science has favored Jaak Panksepp (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_Panksepp https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaak_Panksepp) above John B. Watson (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Watson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_B._Watson).
- arbitrary_name 7y agoWhat? Of course they feel pain. Do you have a cat or dog? They feel pain. So why wouldn't cows? Or pigs, which are arguably smarter than any of the above? To eat meat, one must acknowledge that it means causing pain and suffering. If you're fine with that, go right ahead. But you cannot pretend there are no consequences. i say this, by the way, as an occasional meat eater. But at least I'm honest with myself and others...
- neotek 7y agoThere's a certain irony in accusing someone of constructing a strawman by constructing your own strawman.