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Passive radar uses background RF, usually TV transmitters. Which is why they are the first to go everytime America decides to punish a nation for trying to use

Passive radar uses background RF, usually TV transmitters. Which is why they are the first to go everytime America decides to punish a nation for trying to use something other than the dollar to trade oil or decides to crack down on opium smuggling. Not really enough though, which is how they lost all the F117s over Serbia in the 90s. One of which I have a framed picture of on the wall along side an original "sorry we didnt know it was invisible" flyer. Tech has come a long way since then.

scurvy 7y ago
> Not really enough though, which is how they lost all the F117s over Serbia in the 90s. One of which I have a framed picture of on the wall along side an original "sorry we didnt know it was invisible" flyer. < Only a single F117 was shot down over Serbia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk#Combat_loss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk#Comba...
- DarkmSparks 7y ago
  Perhaps choose a better source than wikipedia, like people who were there. https://images.app.goo.gl/vUd8z2gkWEtKWKcJ8 https://images.app.goo.gl/vUd8z2gkWEtKWKcJ8 even your source says they hit 2. They claim they downed 3. Americans denied they lost any for decades.
  - blago 7y ago
    A propaganda poster knowingly conflating the words stealth and invisible, a distinction its intended audience wouldn't be able to make, to mock the enemy? I think I'll stick with the Wikipedia source.
    - DarkmSparks 7y ago
      And even that says: Some American sources state that a second F-117A was damaged during the same campaign, allegedly on 30 April 1999;[61] the aircraft returned to base, but it supposedly never flew again.[62][63] Point is with AA missile is that getting them "on target" is almost as effective as a hit. target has to deploy its counter measures and return home, else next time they are destroyed.
      - blago 7y ago
        I was addressing the dubious choice of sources delivered with arrogance and condescension. Couldn't care less about how many airplanes did Serbia take down.
        DarkmSparks 7y ago
        so you otherwise accept the Serbians/passive radar got the entire F117 fleet mothballed?
    - blago 7y ago
      I was addressing the dubious choice of sources delivered with arrogance and condescension. Couldn't care less about how many airplanes did Serbia take down.
  - scurvy 7y ago
    Hit 2. Only 1 crashed. You wrote "lost". A plane that flies back to base isn't "lost." Also, the US didn't deny that they lost any for decades. I remember the news footage (in the US) of the night it was shot down. You have a peculiar axe to grind here. Are you trying to sell radar systems or something?

scurvy 7y ago

> Not really enough though, which is how they lost all the F117s over Serbia in the 90s. One of which I have a framed picture of on the wall along side an original "sorry we didnt know it was invisible" flyer. < Only a single F117 was shot down over Serbia. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk#Combat_loss https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_F-117_Nighthawk#Comba...

DarkmSparks 7y ago
Perhaps choose a better source than wikipedia, like people who were there. https://images.app.goo.gl/vUd8z2gkWEtKWKcJ8 https://images.app.goo.gl/vUd8z2gkWEtKWKcJ8 even your source says they hit 2. They claim they downed 3. Americans denied they lost any for decades.
- blago 7y ago
  A propaganda poster knowingly conflating the words stealth and invisible, a distinction its intended audience wouldn't be able to make, to mock the enemy? I think I'll stick with the Wikipedia source.
  - DarkmSparks 7y ago
    And even that says: Some American sources state that a second F-117A was damaged during the same campaign, allegedly on 30 April 1999;[61] the aircraft returned to base, but it supposedly never flew again.[62][63] Point is with AA missile is that getting them "on target" is almost as effective as a hit. target has to deploy its counter measures and return home, else next time they are destroyed.
    - blago 7y ago
      I was addressing the dubious choice of sources delivered with arrogance and condescension. Couldn't care less about how many airplanes did Serbia take down.
      - DarkmSparks 7y ago
        so you otherwise accept the Serbians/passive radar got the entire F117 fleet mothballed?
  - blago 7y ago
    I was addressing the dubious choice of sources delivered with arrogance and condescension. Couldn't care less about how many airplanes did Serbia take down.
- scurvy 7y ago
  Hit 2. Only 1 crashed. You wrote "lost". A plane that flies back to base isn't "lost." Also, the US didn't deny that they lost any for decades. I remember the news footage (in the US) of the night it was shot down. You have a peculiar axe to grind here. Are you trying to sell radar systems or something?