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Here it is: https://www.amazon.com/Zijainternational-SuperMix-Moringa-Oliefera-Supplement/dp/B07D53TF3T/ https://www.amazon.com/Zijainternational-SuperMix-Morin

Here it is: https://www.amazon.com/Zijainternational-SuperMix-Moringa-Oliefera-Supplement/dp/B07D53TF3T/ https://www.amazon.com/Zijainternational-SuperMix-Moringa-Ol... We forgot about it until I was gasping for air and then my wife remembered and we had some laying around. I could breath again in about 20 minutes. My chest and lungs still hurt until today.

rhexs 7y ago
An 85$ "detox" supplement with a herbal ingredient that doesn't seem to have any controlled studies. Hmm. Edit - While I greatly appreciate the downvotes folks, this is not the correct time to start ingesting random "potions" (as a previously deleted comment wonderfully called them) you're sourcing from Amazon of all places. Goodness.
- bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/
  - rhexs 7y ago
    "An open label, noncomparative clinical study" from the Indian Journal of Pharmacology isn't doing much to disprove my point.
    - bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
      That seems a little racist, but in any case: There aren't very good studies for basically anything in medicine (let alone outside of medicine). Triple/Double-blind large studies are expensive in the extreme. We don't have strong evidence for the majority of things we do. Recent examples might be mamograms causing more cancer than it detects and stents, it turns out, are no better than a placebo. Therefore, the lack of a decent studies isn't in itself that interesting. Neither is it illogical for people to turn to old wives tales for knowledge because the filter of history on the knowledge is more powerful than retail medicine in terms of anecdata.
  - striking 7y ago
    N=20, and I don't think it was double blind. I don't think this helps us.
    - bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
      We've been giving people stents for decades without any evidence that it was a great idea, so gimme a break :-)
- dharma1 7y ago
  You can buy moringa seeds/leaf for much, much less. There is some anecdotal evidence it helps with asthma but I agree you would want to see more studies
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e12e 7y ago
Glad it worked for you - but it's not exactly obvious to me how it would help, or how you administered it? Especially when you were gasping for air?
scottlocklin 7y ago
Note this user has basically zero HN history and is shilling an expensive product in a classic scammer way. I mean, maybe it's totally innocent! Doesn't look innocent! I mean, maybe Moringa Oil is amazing (I doubt it). It's available for much cheaper than the listed amazon link: https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/cold-pressed-rwandan-moringa-oil-2-fl-oz-oil/sto0031 https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/cold-pressed-rwandan-moringa...
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rendall 7y ago
Thank you, benrrio. I appreciate your telling us, and as promised I will downvote mockers. You are definitely no scammer.
toolegit 7y ago
I'm from the region where this plant originates and it's very popular to treat various health conditions. The fruits are consumed in stews and leaves used to make specialized tea to help with things like blood pressure. The price point on amazon is ridiculous though...makes me want to get in the business of packaging and selling this product in the future (not specific to covid).
jpster 7y ago
Hey, there may be some scientific support to this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/

rhexs 7y ago

An 85$ "detox" supplement with a herbal ingredient that doesn't seem to have any controlled studies. Hmm. Edit - While I greatly appreciate the downvotes folks, this is not the correct time to start ingesting random "potions" (as a previously deleted comment wonderfully called them) you're sourcing from Amazon of all places. Goodness.

bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/
- rhexs 7y ago
  "An open label, noncomparative clinical study" from the Indian Journal of Pharmacology isn't doing much to disprove my point.
  - bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
    That seems a little racist, but in any case: There aren't very good studies for basically anything in medicine (let alone outside of medicine). Triple/Double-blind large studies are expensive in the extreme. We don't have strong evidence for the majority of things we do. Recent examples might be mamograms causing more cancer than it detects and stents, it turns out, are no better than a placebo. Therefore, the lack of a decent studies isn't in itself that interesting. Neither is it illogical for people to turn to old wives tales for knowledge because the filter of history on the knowledge is more powerful than retail medicine in terms of anecdata.
- striking 7y ago
  N=20, and I don't think it was double blind. I don't think this helps us.
  - bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
    We've been giving people stents for decades without any evidence that it was a great idea, so gimme a break :-)
dharma1 7y ago
You can buy moringa seeds/leaf for much, much less. There is some anecdotal evidence it helps with asthma but I agree you would want to see more studies

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e12e 7y ago

Glad it worked for you - but it's not exactly obvious to me how it would help, or how you administered it? Especially when you were gasping for air?

scottlocklin 7y ago

Note this user has basically zero HN history and is shilling an expensive product in a classic scammer way. I mean, maybe it's totally innocent! Doesn't look innocent! I mean, maybe Moringa Oil is amazing (I doubt it). It's available for much cheaper than the listed amazon link: https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/cold-pressed-rwandan-moringa-oil-2-fl-oz-oil/sto0031 https://www.vitaminshoppe.com/p/cold-pressed-rwandan-moringa...

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rendall 7y ago

Thank you, benrrio. I appreciate your telling us, and as promised I will downvote mockers. You are definitely no scammer.

toolegit 7y ago

I'm from the region where this plant originates and it's very popular to treat various health conditions. The fruits are consumed in stews and leaves used to make specialized tea to help with things like blood pressure. The price point on amazon is ridiculous though...makes me want to get in the business of packaging and selling this product in the future (not specific to covid).

jpster 7y ago

Hey, there may be some scientific support to this: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3023118/