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No it wont. Sure they might waive fees for a 60 days or so but to think that these corporations would give up their free money piggy bank is untethered from rea

No it wont. Sure they might waive fees for a 60 days or so but to think that these corporations would give up their free money piggy bank is untethered from reality. If anything they will use it to try and get people to upgrade to a higher tier.

dsr_ 7y ago
A shiny nickel says that right now, there is an ISP sales VP asking if the terms of service for customer lines exclude using a VPN to get in to work, and if this can be detected and used as a forced upsell.
- Spivak 7y ago
  I'm actually hoping that ISPs start to squeeze in this direction just because it's something that might actually garner enough anger/support to force legislators to say what exactly buying "internet service" means. Businesses aren't gonna be happy when people start expensing their internet service. So please force customers to upgrade to a $2-3x "business class" package if they want to use their internet to do any work/commercial activity.
  - penagwin 7y ago
    Until the ISPs decide that all freelancers and any VPN are "business use" and then the legislators don't do anything about it.
grecy 7y ago
I agree 100%. I worked at a telco and managed the usage metering system. We regularly had meeting with sales and marketing, and time and again there was no way on earth they were going to give up usage caps, it's just too much money to leave on the table. They will hold onto usage caps tooth and nail until they're mandated by law to drop them, and even then they'll try to blackmail the legislators (my company did it often) with lines like "Oh OK, now we can't roll out fibre to x, y, z city". So the legislators back off, and usage caps stay!
jariel 7y ago
"corporations would give up their free money piggy bank is untethered from reality" Bandwidth is absolutely not free, to suggest that carriers Ops and Capex somehow represents a 'free money piggy bank' is actually untethered from reality. There are possibly some alterations that could be made, but it's basically false to suggest that their product is detached from underlying cost.
- Scoundreller 7y ago
  If your usage is outside of the 95th percentile, ya, it’s free. Not using it is just a waste because you’ll never get it back. You can’t bank spectrum.
  - jariel 7y ago
    Who said anything about costs at the margin, i.e. 95th percentile? You've just 'moved the goalposts' across the field :) Bandwidth is a commodity like anything else and has underlying structural costs - it's far from free in any sense of the word. Even at the 95th percentile, as you say, there's no guarantee that there's unused bandwidth at all.
    - Scoundreller 7y ago
      We’re talking about caps. As in, gb/month that residential users are often subjected to.

dsr_ 7y ago

A shiny nickel says that right now, there is an ISP sales VP asking if the terms of service for customer lines exclude using a VPN to get in to work, and if this can be detected and used as a forced upsell.

Spivak 7y ago
I'm actually hoping that ISPs start to squeeze in this direction just because it's something that might actually garner enough anger/support to force legislators to say what exactly buying "internet service" means. Businesses aren't gonna be happy when people start expensing their internet service. So please force customers to upgrade to a $2-3x "business class" package if they want to use their internet to do any work/commercial activity.
- penagwin 7y ago
  Until the ISPs decide that all freelancers and any VPN are "business use" and then the legislators don't do anything about it.

grecy 7y ago

I agree 100%. I worked at a telco and managed the usage metering system. We regularly had meeting with sales and marketing, and time and again there was no way on earth they were going to give up usage caps, it's just too much money to leave on the table. They will hold onto usage caps tooth and nail until they're mandated by law to drop them, and even then they'll try to blackmail the legislators (my company did it often) with lines like "Oh OK, now we can't roll out fibre to x, y, z city". So the legislators back off, and usage caps stay!

jariel 7y ago

"corporations would give up their free money piggy bank is untethered from reality" Bandwidth is absolutely not free, to suggest that carriers Ops and Capex somehow represents a 'free money piggy bank' is actually untethered from reality. There are possibly some alterations that could be made, but it's basically false to suggest that their product is detached from underlying cost.

Scoundreller 7y ago
If your usage is outside of the 95th percentile, ya, it’s free. Not using it is just a waste because you’ll never get it back. You can’t bank spectrum.
- jariel 7y ago
  Who said anything about costs at the margin, i.e. 95th percentile? You've just 'moved the goalposts' across the field :) Bandwidth is a commodity like anything else and has underlying structural costs - it's far from free in any sense of the word. Even at the 95th percentile, as you say, there's no guarantee that there's unused bandwidth at all.
  - Scoundreller 7y ago
    We’re talking about caps. As in, gb/month that residential users are often subjected to.