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I don't but they're generally disadvantaged people or from places with a bleak economic future. So it's probably something to do with that. Maybe feeling left b

I don't but they're generally disadvantaged people or from places with a bleak economic future. So it's probably something to do with that. Maybe feeling left behind and looked down on by the rest of the country? Emotional reasons like that are very commonly reasons for people being unable to see the other's point of view. They don't articulate easily and don't translate into simple measures like money.

lonelappde 7y ago
How great must someone's economic prospects be before to earn before it's no longer OK to be homophobic, racist, xenophobic and voting and voting for someone cynically exploit their ignorance? How is their misery somehow a reason that makes them required to vote for not just a Republican no matter what but the worst possible one who is not even a conservative but looks our for absolutely no one's interests on any side except his own fame and wealth?
- krapp 7y ago
  The real question is, why are they going to vote for him again despite his failure to deliver on any of his promises, or to display even a modicum of competence at his job? And when, after another four years, the wall still hasn't been built, globalism and automation still haven't been dismantled and the mines and domestic factories still haven't reopened, America's prestige still hasn't been restored, China still hasn't been broken, the Middle East still hasn't been pacified, and there still isn't a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage, who will they turn to?
  - kortilla 7y ago
    This virus may change that. Until this point unemployment was quite low and the stock and housing markets were doing well. Nearly everything takes a backseat to the economy for American voters, despite what they say.
    - krapp 7y ago
      I doubt it. Trump supporters will blame any negative effects on Democrats and the liberal media conspiracy spreading panic and misinformation in order to sabotage him as they already do.
      - LessDmesg 7y ago
        And the fault is with the Democrat media. CNN, NY Times rtc have been demonizing Trump so much and in such a biased way that they've turned themselves into fake news.
        krapp 7y ago
        There is no "Democrat media," with a few exceptions (and granting the existence of "Republican media" like Fox News, of course.) Contrary to popular right-wing belief, there is no secret cabal of globalists, leftists and Democratic Party operatives controlling the world's media platforms and conspiring to manipulate and distort their coverage of Donald Trump to make him look bad. There is no Donald Trump the master tactician deftly playing four dimensional chess with the world, erudite scholar of law, or golden-tongued orator being hidden from public view behind a curtain of liberal "fake news." There is no way to cover what Donald Trump actually says and does which doesn't make him look petty, narcissistic, venal, and incompetent because that is actually who he is and how he behaves.
  - RationalThinker 7y ago
    >The real question is, why are they going to vote for him again despite his failure to deliver on any of his promises.. Well, let's look at what he has delivered so far... He ended the Korean War. He pulled out of Syria. He pulled out of Afghanistan. ISIS is dead and the Taliban wants peace. He's building the wall. He brought jobs back and created millions more jobs. People don't have to depend on welfare anymore. Unemployment rate is at it's lowest. He did prison reform, and many people have been released already. He established economic zones in the Black community to help small black business owners (so that they pay lower taxes). We are happy with what he has accomplished so far, and that's why they we going to vote for him again in 2020.
- lopmotr 7y ago
  > homophobic, racist, xenophobic You're using the "they're evil" argument. > voting for someone cynically exploit their ignorance? and the "they're stupid" argument. Talk to real life ordinary Trump voters and see what they really feel. Have a long chat with them so they're comfortable with you and not making up quick defensive excuses. Real common people, not an extreme example dug up by the media.
tzs 7y ago
The funny and sad thing about that is in most of those cases Clinton had better plans to help those people than Trump did. Take coal mining towns. Here was Clinton's plan for helping them [1]. Trump's plan was to cut environmental regulations and somehow coal towns would become great again. [1] http://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f13d/clinton-releases-30-billion-strategy-to-help-coal-communities.pdf http://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f13...

lonelappde 7y ago

How great must someone's economic prospects be before to earn before it's no longer OK to be homophobic, racist, xenophobic and voting and voting for someone cynically exploit their ignorance? How is their misery somehow a reason that makes them required to vote for not just a Republican no matter what but the worst possible one who is not even a conservative but looks our for absolutely no one's interests on any side except his own fame and wealth?

krapp 7y ago
The real question is, why are they going to vote for him again despite his failure to deliver on any of his promises, or to display even a modicum of competence at his job? And when, after another four years, the wall still hasn't been built, globalism and automation still haven't been dismantled and the mines and domestic factories still haven't reopened, America's prestige still hasn't been restored, China still hasn't been broken, the Middle East still hasn't been pacified, and there still isn't a chicken in every pot and two cars in every garage, who will they turn to?
- kortilla 7y ago
  This virus may change that. Until this point unemployment was quite low and the stock and housing markets were doing well. Nearly everything takes a backseat to the economy for American voters, despite what they say.
  - krapp 7y ago
    I doubt it. Trump supporters will blame any negative effects on Democrats and the liberal media conspiracy spreading panic and misinformation in order to sabotage him as they already do.
    - LessDmesg 7y ago
      And the fault is with the Democrat media. CNN, NY Times rtc have been demonizing Trump so much and in such a biased way that they've turned themselves into fake news.
      - krapp 7y ago
        There is no "Democrat media," with a few exceptions (and granting the existence of "Republican media" like Fox News, of course.) Contrary to popular right-wing belief, there is no secret cabal of globalists, leftists and Democratic Party operatives controlling the world's media platforms and conspiring to manipulate and distort their coverage of Donald Trump to make him look bad. There is no Donald Trump the master tactician deftly playing four dimensional chess with the world, erudite scholar of law, or golden-tongued orator being hidden from public view behind a curtain of liberal "fake news." There is no way to cover what Donald Trump actually says and does which doesn't make him look petty, narcissistic, venal, and incompetent because that is actually who he is and how he behaves.
- RationalThinker 7y ago
  >The real question is, why are they going to vote for him again despite his failure to deliver on any of his promises.. Well, let's look at what he has delivered so far... He ended the Korean War. He pulled out of Syria. He pulled out of Afghanistan. ISIS is dead and the Taliban wants peace. He's building the wall. He brought jobs back and created millions more jobs. People don't have to depend on welfare anymore. Unemployment rate is at it's lowest. He did prison reform, and many people have been released already. He established economic zones in the Black community to help small black business owners (so that they pay lower taxes). We are happy with what he has accomplished so far, and that's why they we going to vote for him again in 2020.
lopmotr 7y ago
> homophobic, racist, xenophobic You're using the "they're evil" argument. > voting for someone cynically exploit their ignorance? and the "they're stupid" argument. Talk to real life ordinary Trump voters and see what they really feel. Have a long chat with them so they're comfortable with you and not making up quick defensive excuses. Real common people, not an extreme example dug up by the media.

tzs 7y ago

The funny and sad thing about that is in most of those cases Clinton had better plans to help those people than Trump did. Take coal mining towns. Here was Clinton's plan for helping them [1]. Trump's plan was to cut environmental regulations and somehow coal towns would become great again. [1] http://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f13d/clinton-releases-30-billion-strategy-to-help-coal-communities.pdf http://static.politico.com/b8/90/cbbc9c59413089d87e8d6340f13...