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> "We’re willing to comply with whatever they want us to (within reason)." This app wasn't taken down because of "an inordinate number of stream.publish calls.
by rexf 16y ago
> "We’re willing to comply with whatever they want us to (within reason)."
This app wasn't taken down because of "an inordinate number of stream.publish calls."
The question is how this app falls within acceptable behavior. Is it closer in nature to the acceptable practices (such as the FB Newsfeed where you see friends' recently changed statuses)? Or is it closer to behavior that FB wants to dissuade (such as an app showing how many times a given friend has viewed your profile)?
- fossuser 16y agoMy opinion is that this app does not violate the behavior that FB wants to dissuade. It sends an email that provides information that is already being provided by the user, it does not track or determine information that is otherwise not available.
- blake8086 16y agoFacebook does not want to provide that information. Twitter is similar in that they ask you to not publish deleted tweets.
- fossuser 16y agoIt's not the absence of a status, it's a new one being posted. When somebody switches from 'in a relationship' to 'single' it shows up on everyone's feed. They do want people to know that information.
- rhizome 16y agoIs the info being provided by the user, or is the app detecting info that is no longer being provided by the user, i.e. lack of friend status is not the same as a notification that you are no longer friends. If the deal is with regard to the former, I can easily imagine that FB doesn't tell you these things intentionally. If they leave it as a silent disconnect, they can construct their TOU to prohibit detecting connection state since FB does not actually provide that data. I guess in other words, FB may simply prohibit extracting any information from their service that they do not explicitly provide.
- joe_the_user 16y agoI'd speculate that extracting more information here is a gray area in general but it should be clear that this would be the "blackest part" of the gray - ie, potential stalking/exploitation material. Facebook lets people post where they are when. An app that determines when someone isn't home or when someone is alone in a dangerous area would still be undesirable. Note also - Friend doesn't let someone explicit reject a friend request and it doesn't let people "unlike". This may seem dictatorial but in many ways it's "good moderation/curation of the space". It's just as logical for Facebook to remove apps that want to add "the forgotten" "reject button"/"unlike button".
- rhizome 16y agoI doubt it's a gray area in the FB offices. The strategy is about more info in than info out, so the flow directions are certainly controlled resources. The rules don't even allow you to use someone's FB profile picture unless they're currently logged in. This is an important point.
- smackfu 16y agoFacebook also lets you delete updates from your wall, so that it's not obvious something changed. This circumvents that.
- rhizome 16y agoI tend to think of these kinds of apps as "slow spiders," which when thought about in that way makes a bit more sense on the FB-ban side.
- fossuser 16y agoIt's provided by the user, when they switch their relationship status from in a relationship to 'single' it appears on everyone's feed.
- rhizome 16y agoDoes anything post if you remove your relationship status rather than change it to something else?