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It IS happening in Italy, and it definitely happened in China. The difference is that Japan, South Korea and Singapore have much more powerful nationwide govern

It IS happening in Italy, and it definitely happened in China. The difference is that Japan, South Korea and Singapore have much more powerful nationwide governments. This allowed them to put infection controls in place much earlier than we have in the USA. It remains to be seen where we top out, numbers-wise, vs. hospital capacity.

jschwartzi 7y ago
Here in Washington Governor Inslee declared a State of Emergency, which gives him the power to, among other things, mobilize the National Guard and State militias to establish field hospitals. This is essentially the same reaction China had with regard to building temporary hospitals, but at the state level instead of the federal level. We don't need federal powers, just competent state leadership.
- seanmcdirmid 7y ago
  My Bellevue daycare told me today that they probably won’t close unless a worker, kid, or family member gets the virus or...the state shuts them down. Fun times.
  - tempestn 7y ago
    Even if they won't close, you can still pull your kid out when you believe it's prudent to do so, right?
    - creato 7y ago
      Isn't that missing the point? That might be fine and dandy for him, but it bodes poorly for slowing the spread in general.
    - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
      I’m ok with their precautions. Not only are they keeping things super clean, but they are giving my kid more hygiene education and training then I could possibly do on my own. For example, washing hands at home is a bit of a struggle because the sink is so high, it is much easier to drill in the habit at daycare, not to mention the peer pressure they apply by making a game out of it for all the kids at once. Child psychology is working for us in this case as long as it remains safe.
      - iso1210 7y ago
        > washing hands at home is a bit of a struggle because the sink is so high Buy a stool for crying out loud, they're like $10
        seanmcdirmid 7y ago
        We have one of course. Helps, but still isn’t a replacement for having a sink specifically at a 3 year old’s height.
9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago
The Japanese response has actually been pretty lackluster and haphazard. I'm rather surprised rates there have not been exploding the way they did in Korea, Iran and Italy.
- protein_lense 7y ago
  A colleague and myself were pondering this today. He mentioned the 'bow', and general cultural aversion to physical contact. I found that interesting and plausible to consider.
  - sobani 7y ago
    And wearing a mask when you have the sniffles was already very common in Japan.
- teambayleaf 7y ago
  The Japanese response was not so bad when viewed in hindsight. In comparison, Korea's response was disastrously wrong. Their "Let's test everyone" policy sent lots of people into medical limbo ("We can’t let you go because you're COVID-19 positive ... but meanwhile we have particularly nothing to do for you because you're not that ill") and got their hospitals flooded with mild cases.

jschwartzi 7y ago

Here in Washington Governor Inslee declared a State of Emergency, which gives him the power to, among other things, mobilize the National Guard and State militias to establish field hospitals. This is essentially the same reaction China had with regard to building temporary hospitals, but at the state level instead of the federal level. We don't need federal powers, just competent state leadership.

seanmcdirmid 7y ago
My Bellevue daycare told me today that they probably won’t close unless a worker, kid, or family member gets the virus or...the state shuts them down. Fun times.
- tempestn 7y ago
  Even if they won't close, you can still pull your kid out when you believe it's prudent to do so, right?
  - creato 7y ago
    Isn't that missing the point? That might be fine and dandy for him, but it bodes poorly for slowing the spread in general.
  - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
    I’m ok with their precautions. Not only are they keeping things super clean, but they are giving my kid more hygiene education and training then I could possibly do on my own. For example, washing hands at home is a bit of a struggle because the sink is so high, it is much easier to drill in the habit at daycare, not to mention the peer pressure they apply by making a game out of it for all the kids at once. Child psychology is working for us in this case as long as it remains safe.
    - iso1210 7y ago
      > washing hands at home is a bit of a struggle because the sink is so high Buy a stool for crying out loud, they're like $10
      - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
        We have one of course. Helps, but still isn’t a replacement for having a sink specifically at a 3 year old’s height.

9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago

The Japanese response has actually been pretty lackluster and haphazard. I'm rather surprised rates there have not been exploding the way they did in Korea, Iran and Italy.

protein_lense 7y ago
A colleague and myself were pondering this today. He mentioned the 'bow', and general cultural aversion to physical contact. I found that interesting and plausible to consider.
- sobani 7y ago
  And wearing a mask when you have the sniffles was already very common in Japan.
teambayleaf 7y ago
The Japanese response was not so bad when viewed in hindsight. In comparison, Korea's response was disastrously wrong. Their "Let's test everyone" policy sent lots of people into medical limbo ("We can’t let you go because you're COVID-19 positive ... but meanwhile we have particularly nothing to do for you because you're not that ill") and got their hospitals flooded with mild cases.