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Thankfully it was just a small error... Also looks like it won't affect outbound flights either?

• jessriedel 7y ago
  Outbound flights are going to get a hell of a lot more expensive if all the planes have to return to the US empty.
  • Jommi 7y ago
    Would assume that any flights booked in under 30 days before travel will be expensive no matter what the situation.
    • zamfi 7y ago
      Dangerous assumption -- most domestic and international flights are the cheapest I have ever seen them.
      • Jommi 7y ago
        I mean generally, if booking flights for the next week (in general) they are expensive.
        • zamfi 7y ago
          Yes, in non-pandemic times that is true. :)
  • killjoywashere 7y ago
    Nah, all planes are just going to be routed through a non-European destination en route back. The Azores are about to be very popular.
    • throwaway092855 7y ago
      The Azores is part of Portugal, which is on the travel ban list.
    • giarc 7y ago
      The ban is on the Schengen area, which does include the Azores.
      • killjoywashere 7y ago
        I live on an island. There are all sorts of weird legal things that play out on these bits of rock. I suspect that there are all sorts of lawyers reading interesting bits of definitions of treaties and history right now.
    • tdhoot 7y ago
      It's about whether you've been to Europe at all in the 14 days preceding, not about whether your immediate origin was European.
      • Scoundreller 7y ago
        And for Schengen, you'll have a stamp in and out (assuming 1 passport).
        • hectormalot 7y ago
          No Schengen stamps if you already live in the Schengen area. Unless there is data sharing the US gov wouldn’t be able to see it from a passport. I suppose it will be another question on the form. Next to ‘I am not a terrorist’
          • rendall 7y ago
            As a side-note: I saw the forms that my great grandparents had to fill out when entering the US from Europe back in 1905 or thereabouts. There was a checkbox for "anarchist" Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
  • hrasyid 7y ago
    Not to mention probably there's only a small use case of going to Europe without needing to return.
    • mminer237 7y ago
      US citizens can always return though. It's kind of unconstitutional to stop them from returning.
      • sangnoir 7y ago
        There is the small matter of a 2-week quarantine upon return though.
      • Fezzik 7y ago
        Just because citizens can legally return does not mean that doing so is viable or economical - the government has no legal obligation to make sure there are 1) flights to and from the US that 2) are affordable. Those are going to be the big issues.
      • Scoundreller 7y ago
        > It's kind of unconstitutional to stop them from returning. Sort of. The trick is to get the airline overseas to refuse boarding. (Probably) not unconstitutional because it's not US soil. Just like how the US directs airlines overseas to refuse boarding if you show a US birth certificate and photo ID instead of a US passport.
• dbbk 7y ago
  He made several errors. He also said Europe minus the UK was banned, but it's actually the Schengen Area.