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I wouldn't say "many". The only holdouts I know of are pro audio/video users with interoperability concerns; pretty sure they aren't the target market anyway.

by sho 7y ago

brailsafe 7y ago
You're probably right, but as a non audio/video person, I'm trying to stay away until the next version. If the most apologetic Apple cultists I listen to podcasts from are still critical, that's a bad sign imo. So far all I've heard in the real world is the annoying security popups which I also don't want.
- jasonlfunk 7y ago
  Those annoying pop ups are only annoying because on day one everything has to ask permission. After that, you only see them if you install a new application. I certainly prefer having to give my permission before an application uses my microphone or records my screen.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    I agree with “just day one” in general, but do note that if you develop apps or write AppleScript that require permissions it can get pretty annoying as every build asks for permissions all over again. (Actually I’m not quite sure about native apps built from Xcode, but this was my experience with a Qt app I wrote last month.)
- alwillis 7y ago
  The early days of Catalina were pretty bad. But after doing a clean install of macOS 10.15.3, everything’s been fine. I expect 10.15.4, currently in beta, to be as stable as any other version of macOS at this point in its lifecycle.
- IggleSniggle 7y ago
  I've only had one problem with Catalina and ironically it prevents me from using the feature that I updated for: Sidecar. Turns out that Sidecar doesn't work if your mac is connected to a VPN, even if you are connected to your iPad via USB with its wireless turned off.
toyg 7y ago
I’m a holdout - I have a bunch of tools and games that won’t survive the transition. I just cannot be arsed to do the prep work to find alternatives (boot from external drive, see what can be done with Wine/Crossover, or just buy another laptop...).
- jeffhuys 7y ago
  Or just dual boot? I hold option when starting and select Mojave. Only the system-necessary files are on that partition - all other files (like applications, downloads etc) are being shared between my two installs. That way I can download a game on steam, and if it doesn't work, I play it on Mojave.
  - Wowfunhappy 7y ago
    At that point you might as well just dual boot Windows and have compatibility with all games. The advantage of Mac-compatible games is I don’t have to reboot.
Wowfunhappy 7y ago
My entire company is staying on 10.14 due to general bugginess. (We’re a graphic design agency.)

I wouldn't say "many". The only holdouts I know of are pro audio/video users with interoperability concerns; pretty sure they aren't the target market anyway.

by sho 7y ago

I wouldn't say "many". The only holdouts I know of are pro audio/video users with interoperability concerns; pretty sure they aren't the target market anyway.

brailsafe 7y ago

You're probably right, but as a non audio/video person, I'm trying to stay away until the next version. If the most apologetic Apple cultists I listen to podcasts from are still critical, that's a bad sign imo. So far all I've heard in the real world is the annoying security popups which I also don't want.

jasonlfunk 7y ago
Those annoying pop ups are only annoying because on day one everything has to ask permission. After that, you only see them if you install a new application. I certainly prefer having to give my permission before an application uses my microphone or records my screen.
- oefrha 7y ago
  I agree with “just day one” in general, but do note that if you develop apps or write AppleScript that require permissions it can get pretty annoying as every build asks for permissions all over again. (Actually I’m not quite sure about native apps built from Xcode, but this was my experience with a Qt app I wrote last month.)
alwillis 7y ago
The early days of Catalina were pretty bad. But after doing a clean install of macOS 10.15.3, everything’s been fine. I expect 10.15.4, currently in beta, to be as stable as any other version of macOS at this point in its lifecycle.
IggleSniggle 7y ago
I've only had one problem with Catalina and ironically it prevents me from using the feature that I updated for: Sidecar. Turns out that Sidecar doesn't work if your mac is connected to a VPN, even if you are connected to your iPad via USB with its wireless turned off.

toyg 7y ago

I’m a holdout - I have a bunch of tools and games that won’t survive the transition. I just cannot be arsed to do the prep work to find alternatives (boot from external drive, see what can be done with Wine/Crossover, or just buy another laptop...).

jeffhuys 7y ago
Or just dual boot? I hold option when starting and select Mojave. Only the system-necessary files are on that partition - all other files (like applications, downloads etc) are being shared between my two installs. That way I can download a game on steam, and if it doesn't work, I play it on Mojave.
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  At that point you might as well just dual boot Windows and have compatibility with all games. The advantage of Mac-compatible games is I don’t have to reboot.

Wowfunhappy 7y ago

My entire company is staying on 10.14 due to general bugginess. (We’re a graphic design agency.)