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Imagine the hate Google would get here it they had something similar.
by techntoke 7y ago
Imagine the hate Google would get here it they had something similar.
- gnud 7y agoI will complain if Apple forbid apps from offering "sign in with google/facebook/twitter/whatever", but as long as they only make apps offer an alternative, I don't have a huge problem. This is a much smaller issue for me than "no alternative browsers" or "no sideloading".
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y agoMy problem with “sign in with Google” is that the app will often times ask for additional permissions, such as access to contacts and even sometimes email! I have to be so careful with it. It should just be a way to login and nothing else.
- ethanbond 7y agoWell Google’s intent in doing so would be solely to siphon up more user data, which is distinct and totally worth criticizing.
- 3fe9a03ccd14ca5 7y agoAnd is manifestly the opposite goal of Apple, which is to create a privacy firewall between users and apps.
- techntoke 7y agoLol, Apple's goal is the lock you into their ecosystem so that it is near impossible to ever switch away. Privacy comes with customer's controlling their data and Android has F-Droid.
- akiselev 7y agoOr they've run out of high growth low hanging fruit and are trying to grab a bigger piece of the pie now that the app ecosystem has fleshed out the tracking and mobile ads market. The number of privacy conscious users is minuscule compared to the rest of the market (I'd love to be some evidence otherwise) and Apple is a corporation. Its way forward is clear.
- djannzjkzxn 7y agoIt’s interesting that we would interpret exactly the same behavior as evil when done by one faceless corporation and good when done by another. It’s almost as though our interpretations are a Rorschach test where we just repeat PR and media narratives, rather than the product of independent thought.
- yjftsjthsd-h 7y agoOr we can read trends. Google earned its reputation for siphoning any data the can, while Apple has a precedent for making systems that are secure even against Apple.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoI’m pro-Apple but will be all-in to the Apple Cares camp when they encrypt iCloud backups.
- scarface74 7y agoIt’s not that Apple is “good” and Google is “bad”. Apple’s “strategy credit” is that their business model is not predicated on collecting user information. Even Facebook can say that they will not have data centers in non democratic countries. Something that Apple can’t say. Since FB isn’t allowed in most non democratic countries, even it can spin their business model to their advantage.
- millstone 7y agoYes, and the business model is a choice.
- scarface74 7y agoSo you’re saying that: A) Google could choose to start a business selling high margin hardware so it wouldn’t need to sell targeted ads? B) Apple could choose not to sell in the world’s most populous country? How would the shareholders or board feel about that?
- chillacy 7y agoI don’t know if the ends should justify the means. Apple is the only pro privacy player in the space but they still run their developer programs with an iron fist.
- amylene 7y agoPersonally, I want them to run it with an iron fist. I am happy to accept the limitations that come along with the trust I have in the platform. YMMV.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoI’m going through App certification right now and while it’s a pain sometimes, man, you really need to be in the box. It’s actually kind of amazing how much attention each app gets.
- cortesoft 7y agoDoes that make you feel better as a user of apps?
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoWithout a doubt. If we have a modest app and it’s thing much of a struggle to cross all the t’s and dot the i’s... I highly doubt there is a lot of malware getting through.
- thejosh 7y agoSure, they care about security until the FBI complains and they don't encrypt your backups :-).
- Mirioron 7y agoIs Apple actually pro privacy? Or do they just brand themselves as that, while not really caring much about it?
- root_axis 7y agoIndeed. However, many people trust Apple, so they don't have a problem with it. Personally I think this is a great thing and support the idea, but it's interesting to me that Apple rarely comes up in discussions about the coercive domination of large platforms and the merits of government intervention to reduce it.
- hendersoon 7y agoIf Google offered the same privacy and anonymity protections I would be perfectly fine with that.
- hurricanetc 7y agoWell of course people would react differently if a spyware company forced adoption of a new social login so that they could suck even more data from users. It is indeed quite hard to imagine Google doing virtually anything to allow users to be more anonymous on their spyware OS.