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I disagree, when you’ve got 4 kids and both arms full of groceries, when the doors open automatically or even unlock on their own it’s a godsend. I’d even say i

I disagree, when you’ve got 4 kids and both arms full of groceries, when the doors open automatically or even unlock on their own it’s a godsend. I’d even say it’s probably saved some lives as the kids race to get in and out of the parking lot instead of waiting on me to shuffle around for the keys, dropping bags in the process, and then chasing each other around in blind traffic.

Krasnol 7y ago
How much of an inconvenience would it be if your car gets stolen having 4 kids and both arms full of groceries in contrast to placing the bags on the floor for a second? I have this smart key thingy too and I keep it in one of those RFID pouches. Since I don't have to use the key to start the engine, I feel the whole thing became more of a problem than it was before. You at least always knew where the key is and where to put it. Now it sometimes slids down the seat, or is in my jacket that I wanted to leave in the car or the engine/electric is not on/off because pushing the button does several things. It became an inconvenience and the few times I really used the automatic open feature after deliberately taking out the key out of the pouch to profit from it are negligible.
frandroid 7y ago
> when you’ve got 4 arms arms full of groceries Damnit, speaking of unwanted features...
Dylan16807 7y ago
Isn't the solution to that situation a shopping cart?
- dabeeeenster 7y ago
  you dont have children
  - calvinmorrison 7y ago
    OMG LIFE IS SOO HARD WITH KIDS I JUST WANT TO USE THIS AS AN EMOTIONAL APPEAL BECAUSE OF MY LIFE CHOICES Can we not do this shit here? HN delete or we are fb mommy group tier shite
  - spectramax 7y ago
    I find this behavior from parents very condescending - "You don't have children therefore your argument is invalid". Parenting isn't that hard - I have 2 kids (8 and 5 years age) and we're just doing fine. Just like 7 billion other people on this planet whose parents went through the same. Of all the hard things I've done in my 42 years of life, raising kids doesn't rank in the top 10.
    - vyrotek 7y ago
      Survivorship Bias? /s :) I have 3 kids around the same ages. I wouldn't say they're the hardest thing in life but they're often a very difficult variable to manage along with life's other challenges. They have this compounding effect...
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    I'm not saying dealing with the kids is at all easy. But the kids are there either way. So I think you have my argument exactly backwards. I'm not saying something is easy. I think kids plus carried bags sounds completely overwhelming. If you want to say I'm wrong, you're making the argument that kids plus carried bags is easier than I think. So please, elaborate on how that's easier than a cart.
    - skrebbel 7y ago
      You're basically saying "I cannot, in any way, imagine a situation where the parent's story is the sensible choice, and therefore I'm entitled to make a pedantic comment about a situation I wasn't in". Instead, you should give them the benefit of the doubt.
      - Dylan16807 7y ago
        I didn't say it was wrong. I said a cart should make it easier. I'm legitimately confused by their partial explanation, not being pedantic. It's fair to want clarification about why a cart doesn't solve this. Maybe there are no carts at this store for some awful reason. Maybe the story was so focused on how this type of key solved their problem that they didn't give a fair shake to other possible solutions. More information is needed. There are multiple ways I can/do give benefit of the doubt, but doing so doesn't make the situation any clearer.
- m-p-3 7y ago
  Not always possible (weather conditions, snow can be a problem with those), and even with a cart you still have four kids to keep an eye on.
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    > Not always possible (weather conditions, snow can be a problem with those) I have a hard time imagining snow such that you can walk to a car with four kids while carrying bags, but can't push a cart. > even with a cart you still have four kids to keep an eye on. I would posit that kids + cart + grabbing keys is basically always preferable to kids + both arms full of bags + not grabbing keys.

Krasnol 7y ago

How much of an inconvenience would it be if your car gets stolen having 4 kids and both arms full of groceries in contrast to placing the bags on the floor for a second? I have this smart key thingy too and I keep it in one of those RFID pouches. Since I don't have to use the key to start the engine, I feel the whole thing became more of a problem than it was before. You at least always knew where the key is and where to put it. Now it sometimes slids down the seat, or is in my jacket that I wanted to leave in the car or the engine/electric is not on/off because pushing the button does several things. It became an inconvenience and the few times I really used the automatic open feature after deliberately taking out the key out of the pouch to profit from it are negligible.

frandroid 7y ago

> when you’ve got 4 arms arms full of groceries Damnit, speaking of unwanted features...

Dylan16807 7y ago

Isn't the solution to that situation a shopping cart?

dabeeeenster 7y ago
you dont have children
- calvinmorrison 7y ago
  OMG LIFE IS SOO HARD WITH KIDS I JUST WANT TO USE THIS AS AN EMOTIONAL APPEAL BECAUSE OF MY LIFE CHOICES Can we not do this shit here? HN delete or we are fb mommy group tier shite
- spectramax 7y ago
  I find this behavior from parents very condescending - "You don't have children therefore your argument is invalid". Parenting isn't that hard - I have 2 kids (8 and 5 years age) and we're just doing fine. Just like 7 billion other people on this planet whose parents went through the same. Of all the hard things I've done in my 42 years of life, raising kids doesn't rank in the top 10.
  - vyrotek 7y ago
    Survivorship Bias? /s :) I have 3 kids around the same ages. I wouldn't say they're the hardest thing in life but they're often a very difficult variable to manage along with life's other challenges. They have this compounding effect...
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  I'm not saying dealing with the kids is at all easy. But the kids are there either way. So I think you have my argument exactly backwards. I'm not saying something is easy. I think kids plus carried bags sounds completely overwhelming. If you want to say I'm wrong, you're making the argument that kids plus carried bags is easier than I think. So please, elaborate on how that's easier than a cart.
  - skrebbel 7y ago
    You're basically saying "I cannot, in any way, imagine a situation where the parent's story is the sensible choice, and therefore I'm entitled to make a pedantic comment about a situation I wasn't in". Instead, you should give them the benefit of the doubt.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      I didn't say it was wrong. I said a cart should make it easier. I'm legitimately confused by their partial explanation, not being pedantic. It's fair to want clarification about why a cart doesn't solve this. Maybe there are no carts at this store for some awful reason. Maybe the story was so focused on how this type of key solved their problem that they didn't give a fair shake to other possible solutions. More information is needed. There are multiple ways I can/do give benefit of the doubt, but doing so doesn't make the situation any clearer.
m-p-3 7y ago
Not always possible (weather conditions, snow can be a problem with those), and even with a cart you still have four kids to keep an eye on.
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  > Not always possible (weather conditions, snow can be a problem with those) I have a hard time imagining snow such that you can walk to a car with four kids while carrying bags, but can't push a cart. > even with a cart you still have four kids to keep an eye on. I would posit that kids + cart + grabbing keys is basically always preferable to kids + both arms full of bags + not grabbing keys.