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Playing with new tech is fun. Using a nuclear weapon when a hammer would do is bad engineering.

zaat 7y ago
We are talking about an orchestrator here, right? it's a piece of software that is safe for use in front of kids, last time I checked. Linux is preety complex system too, you know, with millions lines of code and gazillion moving parts. It's probably safe to say that no one alive, including Linus himself, ever read all the codebase required for running a base linux system serving Apache with a static site. And yet we do. Anyone who know how to code well can learn how to pack containers and run them within a kubernetes cluster in a way that will work reliably, even if those containers do nothing except serving pure html text files over port 80, and in fact the whole cluster is waste of money and it is not required and not helping a thing. It will serve the content just fine. No nukes will be hurt during the operation, don't worry.
- krageon 7y ago
  "Anyone who know how to code well can learn how to pack containers and run them within a kubernetes cluster in a way that will work reliably" If this is your criterium, sure. That's nice and simple and for much the same way that physics cows are perfectly spherical - this isn't how real life happens and I suspect you have enough life experience to know that this is the case.
  - zaat 7y ago
    I don't know, I have seen a few simple kuberbenets deployments alive and well, as to spherical cows... Your comment reads like stating "I am right and deep down you know that too", and that is less than pleasing.
  - rumanator 7y ago
    > this is your criterium, sure. That's nice and simple and for much the same way that physics cows are perfectly spherical Ironically your example is a good one, because tools like Kubernetes are what enables the proverbial cows of deploying services in heterogeneous clusters of COTS hardware to be interpreted as being spherical in the sense that they are only contained processes that execute somewhere. And the irony is that you might seriously argue that being forced to waste time modeling cow in higher detail than a sphere is necessary or even required.
xorcist 7y ago
I love playing with things that expand my mind to what is possible. I have never found newness in itself to be attractive. However I have come to respect that many people are different. These are often the same people who insist on buying a new phone, never mind that they haven't understood a millionth of the old one yet.
pdr2020 7y ago
Not using modern weapons and only using a hammer always is also bad engineering.
rumanator 7y ago
> Using a nuclear weapon when a hammer would do The hammer will only suffice in the eyes of those who only envision problems that resemble nails. But there's more to operations than occasionally hammering on a single nail.

zaat 7y ago

We are talking about an orchestrator here, right? it's a piece of software that is safe for use in front of kids, last time I checked. Linux is preety complex system too, you know, with millions lines of code and gazillion moving parts. It's probably safe to say that no one alive, including Linus himself, ever read all the codebase required for running a base linux system serving Apache with a static site. And yet we do. Anyone who know how to code well can learn how to pack containers and run them within a kubernetes cluster in a way that will work reliably, even if those containers do nothing except serving pure html text files over port 80, and in fact the whole cluster is waste of money and it is not required and not helping a thing. It will serve the content just fine. No nukes will be hurt during the operation, don't worry.

krageon 7y ago
"Anyone who know how to code well can learn how to pack containers and run them within a kubernetes cluster in a way that will work reliably" If this is your criterium, sure. That's nice and simple and for much the same way that physics cows are perfectly spherical - this isn't how real life happens and I suspect you have enough life experience to know that this is the case.
- zaat 7y ago
  I don't know, I have seen a few simple kuberbenets deployments alive and well, as to spherical cows... Your comment reads like stating "I am right and deep down you know that too", and that is less than pleasing.
- rumanator 7y ago
  > this is your criterium, sure. That's nice and simple and for much the same way that physics cows are perfectly spherical Ironically your example is a good one, because tools like Kubernetes are what enables the proverbial cows of deploying services in heterogeneous clusters of COTS hardware to be interpreted as being spherical in the sense that they are only contained processes that execute somewhere. And the irony is that you might seriously argue that being forced to waste time modeling cow in higher detail than a sphere is necessary or even required.

xorcist 7y ago

I love playing with things that expand my mind to what is possible. I have never found newness in itself to be attractive. However I have come to respect that many people are different. These are often the same people who insist on buying a new phone, never mind that they haven't understood a millionth of the old one yet.

pdr2020 7y ago

Not using modern weapons and only using a hammer always is also bad engineering.

rumanator 7y ago

> Using a nuclear weapon when a hammer would do The hammer will only suffice in the eyes of those who only envision problems that resemble nails. But there's more to operations than occasionally hammering on a single nail.