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The small amount of people who work on Wikipedia is it's greatest weakness. Petty power plays and individual politics all bubble up from those few into a resour

The small amount of people who work on Wikipedia is it's greatest weakness. Petty power plays and individual politics all bubble up from those few into a resource so many millions use. It deserves more but how can anyone even start with all the rules, bots and reverts. It's really demoralizing to try and put in any effort there as you'll quickly encroach on some editors "territory".

flir 7y ago
There's wikipedia the product, and wikipedia the game. A lot of people really enjoy playing wikipedia. Even so, the product's really not that bad by most metrics.
executesorder66 7y ago
> It deserves more but how can anyone even start with all the rules, bots and reverts. That's why I prefer contributing to smaller wikis. They have much less political issues. However, I'd say more than 90% of the edits I've made to the English Wikipedia are still live. It really depends where you choose to edit. Some articles just have asshole editors who think they own the article. And not everyone has the energy to fight back against that.
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  Is there a simple way to check if one's edits are live, so those that aren't can be reviewed?
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    Incognito mode?
  - TuringTest 7y ago
    You can filter article history by user [1] to check whether their contributions are still in the current version, or use Wikiblame creatively to find who wrote some specific part of a live article [2]. [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBlame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBlame http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php
goto11 7y ago
So you disagree with the numbers presented in article?
- watwut 7y ago
  He may accept numbers in article and still think that 14 years later things are different. Wikipedia changed policies in the meantime, society changed in the meantime. He may also think that more representative selection of articles to run test on would end up differently.
  - deleted 7y ago
    [deleted]
  - goto11 7y ago
    How would a more representative test end up? Are there better numbers available?

flir 7y ago

There's wikipedia the product, and wikipedia the game. A lot of people really enjoy playing wikipedia. Even so, the product's really not that bad by most metrics.

executesorder66 7y ago

> It deserves more but how can anyone even start with all the rules, bots and reverts. That's why I prefer contributing to smaller wikis. They have much less political issues. However, I'd say more than 90% of the edits I've made to the English Wikipedia are still live. It really depends where you choose to edit. Some articles just have asshole editors who think they own the article. And not everyone has the energy to fight back against that.

pbhjpbhj 7y ago
Is there a simple way to check if one's edits are live, so those that aren't can be reviewed?
- saagarjha 7y ago
  Incognito mode?
- TuringTest 7y ago
  You can filter article history by user [1] to check whether their contributions are still in the current version, or use Wikiblame creatively to find who wrote some specific part of a live article [2]. [1] https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py https://tools.wmflabs.org/sigma/usersearch.py [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBlame https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiBlame http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php http://wikipedia.ramselehof.de/wikiblame.php

goto11 7y ago

So you disagree with the numbers presented in article?

watwut 7y ago
He may accept numbers in article and still think that 14 years later things are different. Wikipedia changed policies in the meantime, society changed in the meantime. He may also think that more representative selection of articles to run test on would end up differently.
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- goto11 7y ago
  How would a more representative test end up? Are there better numbers available?