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So are you saying we won't do these quarantines simply because we can't?

by blhack 7y ago

PeterisP 7y ago
Not the parent poster; but yeah, that and also because of the expected resistance (possibly violent) by the population; it seems that the Chinese have mostly been compliant with the quarantines and it seems that Americans will not be as compliant, so any quarantine attempts will be less effective, bring less benefit.
- animalnewbie 7y ago
  There are two sources of violence, at the risk of sounding politically incorrect. One would be whites in rural areas which wouldn't need quarantine. The other would be blacks in urban areas which sure would need quarantine. I know this may sound alarmist but do prepare for rioting if you're in an urban area.
  - AtHeartEngineer 7y ago
    There will likely be some resistance, but I don't agree that it will just be urban areas or that it has anything to do with race.
  - AtHeartEngineer 7y ago
    Also, that's not "politically incorrect", that's just racist.
  - PeterisP 7y ago
    If we're looking at the recent Covid-19 detections, they are in (for example) Seattle and Manhattan, so these particular urban areas are likely among the first to need quarantine, and they aren't predominantly black. Only a very small fraction of the population live in truly rural areas, but they would also be affected by quarantine restrictions on long-distance travel, and have a large proportion of "true individualists" who might be motivated to intentionally sabotage (for example) such checkpoints as a matter of principle. Also, suburbs would definitely need quarantine, although it's easier in literal gated communities. However, I think that you may have a point regarding the sensitivity of the racial relationships. If some government actions start harmfully affecting predominantly groups of one race (and it will be different groups in different places), then given the historically strained relationships in USA, it's likely that some of these groups will perceive the government as their enemy and try to resist any measures even if they're actually helpful for the health of their community.

So are you saying we won't do these quarantines simply because we can't?

by blhack 7y ago

So are you saying we won't do these quarantines simply because we can't?

Not the parent poster; but yeah, that and also because of the expected resistance (possibly violent) by the population; it seems that the Chinese have mostly been compliant with the quarantines and it seems that Americans will not be as compliant, so any quarantine attempts will be less effective, bring less benefit.

animalnewbie 7y ago
There are two sources of violence, at the risk of sounding politically incorrect. One would be whites in rural areas which wouldn't need quarantine. The other would be blacks in urban areas which sure would need quarantine. I know this may sound alarmist but do prepare for rioting if you're in an urban area.
- AtHeartEngineer 7y ago
  There will likely be some resistance, but I don't agree that it will just be urban areas or that it has anything to do with race.
- AtHeartEngineer 7y ago
  Also, that's not "politically incorrect", that's just racist.
- PeterisP 7y ago
  If we're looking at the recent Covid-19 detections, they are in (for example) Seattle and Manhattan, so these particular urban areas are likely among the first to need quarantine, and they aren't predominantly black. Only a very small fraction of the population live in truly rural areas, but they would also be affected by quarantine restrictions on long-distance travel, and have a large proportion of "true individualists" who might be motivated to intentionally sabotage (for example) such checkpoints as a matter of principle. Also, suburbs would definitely need quarantine, although it's easier in literal gated communities. However, I think that you may have a point regarding the sensitivity of the racial relationships. If some government actions start harmfully affecting predominantly groups of one race (and it will be different groups in different places), then given the historically strained relationships in USA, it's likely that some of these groups will perceive the government as their enemy and try to resist any measures even if they're actually helpful for the health of their community.