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It’s more like 79 $ for the new generation of iPhones, at least if you want to have it changed by Apple with an official battery (https://support.apple.com/iph

It’s more like 79 $ for the new generation of iPhones, at least if you want to have it changed by Apple with an official battery (https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/battery-power https://support.apple.com/iphone/repair/service/battery-powe...). I did it for my SE and think it’s worth it, I still find it overpriced though.

enneff 7y ago
Why get an official battery replacement for a phone that’s out of warranty?
- hinkley 7y ago
  Does the replacement work nave a warranty?
  - ThePhysicist 7y ago
    I don’t think so, I think the battery might have a one year warranty but it’s considered a “wear part” like a tire so I don’t think you can get a free replacement if it wears out in an expected way.
- ThePhysicist 7y ago
  Because the phone itself is still fine and works really well, just the battery doesn’t hold a full charge and doesn’t deliver the full output current anymore. Now I can use the phone for another 1-2 years which is great. I love the form factor as well and right now Apple doesn’t have anything comparable, but I hope they’ll make a small phone again. Also, the unofficial replacement is not that much cheaper, you get a no-name Chinese battery (which is often worse than the original and more dangerous) and it might break things like FaceID/TouchID because the security chip will be reset and the non-official repair shops don’t have any means to reprogram it (as far as I know).
- dsabanin 7y ago
  Beacause then you know that the battery is actually good, not some refurbished old battery with patched firmware, or a cheap knock off that’s going to lose half of the capacity in a month, if not outright explode on you.
- Lammy 7y ago
  I don’t know if there are any user-visible side effects, but the phone does knows the difference between official and unofficial batteries. Here’s a photo I took of my iPhone 7 showing the internal battery stats immediately after an official replacement during the discount program a couple years ago: https://i.imgur.com/Wo5fSFj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wo5fSFj.jpg
  - johnnycab 7y ago
    Which app did you use to retrieve the detailed internal battery stats in the photo?
    - Lammy 7y ago
      The one pictured was a jailbreak tweak called DetailedPowerUsage: https://legitcomputerwhisperer.github.io/depic/InternalBatteryData/index.html https://legitcomputerwhisperer.github.io/depic/InternalBatte... DPU hasn't been updated for compatibility with iOS 12+, but another tweak "System Info" can show some of the same info: https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/8ecxdm/update_system_info_v200_info_on_your_device_in/ https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/8ecxdm/update_sy...
      - johnnycab 7y ago
        Thanks. I am not looking to jailbreak yet, so I will have to forgo acquiring these stats for now. I have Lirium Lite, which also does not show the internal stats past iOS 10, due to restricted API.
- alkonaut 7y ago
  DO you mean "why get an official battery" or "why do it at a certified store"? For me I'd do it at the store because it's the only way to make sure you get a good battery. Most cheap batteries are crap (or at least you won't know if it's crap until it's too late). If it was possible to get a battery that was 100% known to be original, and I could save a few $ by taking it to a corner shop to have the work done, I'd definitely do that for a phone out of warranty. But in my experience this just isn't possible (which is perhaps a better complaint to direct towards apple than the battery hatch complaint: I want to be able to buy original parts in any shop anywhere).
- thedance 7y ago
  99.5% of non-OEM batteries for phones and laptops are scams and you can’t tell the difference ahead of time.
- adrianmonk 7y ago
  Labor is expensive. The cost difference between OEM and aftermarket parts is small. If the aftermarket battery is fine, you only gain a little. If the aftermarket battery disappoints, you lose big. So it's cheap insurance.
hinkley 7y ago
That’s parts and labor. I think GP is talking about labor. And I remember having a feature phone with a replaceable battery. Often became difficult to find a new battery after they stopped selling the phone. So if you think the lack of a battery is the only reason you’ll stop using your old phone? You’re probably only gonna get another year.
- alkonaut 7y ago
  Indeed $79 is a number you can't compare because it's a battery and a battery replacement job. For phones with user replaceable batteries you'd still need to buy batteries. And there job cost was only a small part of the $79.
- ThePhysicist 7y ago
  Yeah I want to use it 1-2 years more, I’m not a power user and it’s still a perfectly fine phone, runs really fast and gets updates, so why throw it out? Also as I said below if you replace the battery yourself TouchID will stop working as the security chip thinks the phone has been tampered with, so if you wanna keep using that there’s only the official route I think. Not sure about FaceID but it might have the same problem.
  - kasey_junk 7y ago
    I’ve replaced batteries on 3 different TouchId iPhones and never had that problem.
    - ThePhysicist 7y ago
      Interesting. Maybe it’s just Apple propaganda then. Still I wouldn’t want to do it myself I think, though I’m sure it’s doable.
      - jdeibele 7y ago
        My 13-year-old did it on his iPhone SE with a little help from me. Hardest part was getting the old battery free of the adhesive gluing it to the case. He wouldn't use the hair dryer long enough to make the adhesive more pliant and ended up twisting and yanking the battery free. I put the old battery in a bucket on concrete overnight because he thought he might have punctured the envelope and I was worried about it catching on fire. No problem recycling it. It was about $20 for an Amazon battery kit that came complete with tools. Had 20% more charging capacity than the original (when it was new) and my son is very happy with the result. Earphones worked fine, screen worked fine, etc.

enneff 7y ago

Why get an official battery replacement for a phone that’s out of warranty?

hinkley 7y ago
Does the replacement work nave a warranty?
- ThePhysicist 7y ago
  I don’t think so, I think the battery might have a one year warranty but it’s considered a “wear part” like a tire so I don’t think you can get a free replacement if it wears out in an expected way.
ThePhysicist 7y ago
Because the phone itself is still fine and works really well, just the battery doesn’t hold a full charge and doesn’t deliver the full output current anymore. Now I can use the phone for another 1-2 years which is great. I love the form factor as well and right now Apple doesn’t have anything comparable, but I hope they’ll make a small phone again. Also, the unofficial replacement is not that much cheaper, you get a no-name Chinese battery (which is often worse than the original and more dangerous) and it might break things like FaceID/TouchID because the security chip will be reset and the non-official repair shops don’t have any means to reprogram it (as far as I know).
dsabanin 7y ago
Beacause then you know that the battery is actually good, not some refurbished old battery with patched firmware, or a cheap knock off that’s going to lose half of the capacity in a month, if not outright explode on you.
Lammy 7y ago
I don’t know if there are any user-visible side effects, but the phone does knows the difference between official and unofficial batteries. Here’s a photo I took of my iPhone 7 showing the internal battery stats immediately after an official replacement during the discount program a couple years ago: https://i.imgur.com/Wo5fSFj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Wo5fSFj.jpg
- johnnycab 7y ago
  Which app did you use to retrieve the detailed internal battery stats in the photo?
  - Lammy 7y ago
    The one pictured was a jailbreak tweak called DetailedPowerUsage: https://legitcomputerwhisperer.github.io/depic/InternalBatteryData/index.html https://legitcomputerwhisperer.github.io/depic/InternalBatte... DPU hasn't been updated for compatibility with iOS 12+, but another tweak "System Info" can show some of the same info: https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/8ecxdm/update_system_info_v200_info_on_your_device_in/ https://old.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/8ecxdm/update_sy...
    - johnnycab 7y ago
      Thanks. I am not looking to jailbreak yet, so I will have to forgo acquiring these stats for now. I have Lirium Lite, which also does not show the internal stats past iOS 10, due to restricted API.
alkonaut 7y ago
DO you mean "why get an official battery" or "why do it at a certified store"? For me I'd do it at the store because it's the only way to make sure you get a good battery. Most cheap batteries are crap (or at least you won't know if it's crap until it's too late). If it was possible to get a battery that was 100% known to be original, and I could save a few $ by taking it to a corner shop to have the work done, I'd definitely do that for a phone out of warranty. But in my experience this just isn't possible (which is perhaps a better complaint to direct towards apple than the battery hatch complaint: I want to be able to buy original parts in any shop anywhere).
thedance 7y ago
99.5% of non-OEM batteries for phones and laptops are scams and you can’t tell the difference ahead of time.
adrianmonk 7y ago
Labor is expensive. The cost difference between OEM and aftermarket parts is small. If the aftermarket battery is fine, you only gain a little. If the aftermarket battery disappoints, you lose big. So it's cheap insurance.

hinkley 7y ago

That’s parts and labor. I think GP is talking about labor. And I remember having a feature phone with a replaceable battery. Often became difficult to find a new battery after they stopped selling the phone. So if you think the lack of a battery is the only reason you’ll stop using your old phone? You’re probably only gonna get another year.

alkonaut 7y ago
Indeed $79 is a number you can't compare because it's a battery and a battery replacement job. For phones with user replaceable batteries you'd still need to buy batteries. And there job cost was only a small part of the $79.
ThePhysicist 7y ago
Yeah I want to use it 1-2 years more, I’m not a power user and it’s still a perfectly fine phone, runs really fast and gets updates, so why throw it out? Also as I said below if you replace the battery yourself TouchID will stop working as the security chip thinks the phone has been tampered with, so if you wanna keep using that there’s only the official route I think. Not sure about FaceID but it might have the same problem.
- kasey_junk 7y ago
  I’ve replaced batteries on 3 different TouchId iPhones and never had that problem.
  - ThePhysicist 7y ago
    Interesting. Maybe it’s just Apple propaganda then. Still I wouldn’t want to do it myself I think, though I’m sure it’s doable.
    - jdeibele 7y ago
      My 13-year-old did it on his iPhone SE with a little help from me. Hardest part was getting the old battery free of the adhesive gluing it to the case. He wouldn't use the hair dryer long enough to make the adhesive more pliant and ended up twisting and yanking the battery free. I put the old battery in a bucket on concrete overnight because he thought he might have punctured the envelope and I was worried about it catching on fire. No problem recycling it. It was about $20 for an Amazon battery kit that came complete with tools. Had 20% more charging capacity than the original (when it was new) and my son is very happy with the result. Earphones worked fine, screen worked fine, etc.