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I would say buying their oil has more of an influence, rather than owning a .ly domain. The earning for the domains are probably insignificant compared to the o

I would say buying their oil has more of an influence, rather than owning a .ly domain. The earning for the domains are probably insignificant compared to the oil.

il 16y ago
True, but it's a lot easier for the average hacker to stop buying their domains than their oil.
- codeglomeration 16y ago
  Agree. The point was that it's more of a principle not buying the .ly domains rather than something having a real economic impact.
- borism 16y ago
  this is ridiculous. yeah, let's all stop buying .ly domains and go on driving a Hummer to work, mission accomplished. no, you should neither buy .ly nor drive a Hummer. real hackers have a perspective about the world things, I hope. (Full disclosure: Jeep owner. It's a diesel)
- jules 16y ago
  Use less oil? I don't know how much oil comes from Libya, but you might be able to deny them more money by using less oil than not using a .ly domain (which is only a couple of dollars a year).
  - dhughes 16y ago
    The USA buys about 20% of its oil from Canada, buy more from us.
hasenj 16y ago
Exactly; 10$/yr is nothing compared to oil revenues. EDIT: Hm, my bad, I didn't bother to look it up, just assumed it's like all other top level domains.
- zaatar 16y ago
  $10/year? Where does a .ly domain cost that much? Everywhere I've seen, those sell for $150/year
cma 16y ago
Oil is fungible, .ly domains are not.
- borism 16y ago
  are you sure? .ly domains look pretty fungible to me now.
- bpodgursky 16y ago
  This should be upvoted far more than it is, because it is completely correct. Oil is a global commodity with a standard price; if you don't buy oil from Libya, you'll buy it from someone else for same price, and someone else will buy it from Libya at that price anyway; boycotting oil from them accomplishes nothing. .ly domains do not work the same way. If you don't pay X$/yr for that domain, it's highly unlikely that someone else will buy it for the same price, since you probably tailored the domain to your business--so you are directly funding the regime with that money in a way oil is not. edit: okay good, the parent was at 1 karma when I posted this and I was annoyed.
  - sandipagr 16y ago
    "it's highly unlikely that someone else will buy it for the same price, since you probably tailored the domain to your business" I am not sure I agree with it. It seems against the notion that multiple people are working on your business idea at a given time. If bit.ly decided to not buy this domain, do you think it is unlikely someone else would not buy it by now regardless of existence of url shortener? Maybe I missed your point and am completely off.
    - bpodgursky 16y ago
      It's possible bit.ly would be bought up by now, but most less common ones I don't think would be. Poking around the internet, it looks like a .ly domain is at least $75 annually, which is a lot of money to just domain-squat on (especially since there are probably a many fewer accidental visits to .ly domains than to .com ones.) There doesn't even appear to be squatting on many variants of bit.ly (tried bti.ly, bot.ly, bpt.ly).

I would say buying their oil has more of an influence, rather than owning a .ly domain. The earning for the domains are probably insignificant compared to the oil.

il 16y ago

True, but it's a lot easier for the average hacker to stop buying their domains than their oil.

codeglomeration 16y ago
Agree. The point was that it's more of a principle not buying the .ly domains rather than something having a real economic impact.
borism 16y ago
this is ridiculous. yeah, let's all stop buying .ly domains and go on driving a Hummer to work, mission accomplished. no, you should neither buy .ly nor drive a Hummer. real hackers have a perspective about the world things, I hope. (Full disclosure: Jeep owner. It's a diesel)
jules 16y ago
Use less oil? I don't know how much oil comes from Libya, but you might be able to deny them more money by using less oil than not using a .ly domain (which is only a couple of dollars a year).
- dhughes 16y ago
  The USA buys about 20% of its oil from Canada, buy more from us.

hasenj 16y ago

Exactly; 10$/yr is nothing compared to oil revenues. EDIT: Hm, my bad, I didn't bother to look it up, just assumed it's like all other top level domains.

zaatar 16y ago
$10/year? Where does a .ly domain cost that much? Everywhere I've seen, those sell for $150/year

cma 16y ago

Oil is fungible, .ly domains are not.

borism 16y ago
are you sure? .ly domains look pretty fungible to me now.
bpodgursky 16y ago
This should be upvoted far more than it is, because it is completely correct. Oil is a global commodity with a standard price; if you don't buy oil from Libya, you'll buy it from someone else for same price, and someone else will buy it from Libya at that price anyway; boycotting oil from them accomplishes nothing. .ly domains do not work the same way. If you don't pay X$/yr for that domain, it's highly unlikely that someone else will buy it for the same price, since you probably tailored the domain to your business--so you are directly funding the regime with that money in a way oil is not. edit: okay good, the parent was at 1 karma when I posted this and I was annoyed.
- sandipagr 16y ago
  "it's highly unlikely that someone else will buy it for the same price, since you probably tailored the domain to your business" I am not sure I agree with it. It seems against the notion that multiple people are working on your business idea at a given time. If bit.ly decided to not buy this domain, do you think it is unlikely someone else would not buy it by now regardless of existence of url shortener? Maybe I missed your point and am completely off.
  - bpodgursky 16y ago
    It's possible bit.ly would be bought up by now, but most less common ones I don't think would be. Poking around the internet, it looks like a .ly domain is at least $75 annually, which is a lot of money to just domain-squat on (especially since there are probably a many fewer accidental visits to .ly domains than to .com ones.) There doesn't even appear to be squatting on many variants of bit.ly (tried bti.ly, bot.ly, bpt.ly).