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Not sure why you got downvoted so much, however I agree with the notion that entire Gsuite is a toy for kids to play. Try doing something similar and immediatel

Not sure why you got downvoted so much, however I agree with the notion that entire Gsuite is a toy for kids to play. Try doing something similar and immediately start looking around thinking: where's my Excel?

tluyben2 7y ago
Depends on what you are doing right? Most people use spreadsheets for lists and simple sum() type of things; sheets works fine for that and is convenient. Same for the other gsuite stuff. Those sweeping statements never work; hordes of young people or ‘new computer users’ (people in poorer countries who can now afford tablets and low end laptops etc) never touched MS Office and won’t be thinking ‘where is my Excel?’ only for that reason and just complete their work in sheets. These are often people doing production work and not kids who are playing.
- C1sc0cat 7y ago
  Depends I have seen young supposedly "digital natives" use lesser tools like the google tools and create a complete Charlie Foxtrots Normally they have zero idea about professional project work the concept of a version controlled document is something they have never heard off And we are talking Major Brands and Major agencies here
  - DailyHN 7y ago
    Does excel version control come anywhere near sheets history feature?
    - C1sc0cat 7y ago
      The entire concept of version control is something that whooshes by them 50,00ft I was talking about having documents in source control vitally important when you may have ,multiple teams in several countries
      - DailyHN 7y ago
        > Google Docs solves the 95% case of version-control simply by bringing everyone to the head of master at all times.
  - adgasf 7y ago
    Google Docs solves the 95% case of version-control simply by bringing everyone to the head of master at all times.
    - lrem 7y ago
      And further 3% by having a linear revision history. With some luck it will even render diffs correctly. Disclaimer: I work at Google and hate docs. But acknowledge the thing works ok for its intended user.
Certhas 7y ago
Collaborative editing of large, complex documents involving dozens of domain experts. The collaborative features of GSuite are best in industry, some other features are so - so. I know what expert Excel users can do with it, and it's truly impressive in its domain. But if I need to do that type of stuff I reach for Python typically.
Gowan29 7y ago
Agreed. As a longterm users of both Excel and Google sheets, for simple tasks G-sheets is enough (and probably better for sharing). But any complex modelling should be done in Excel - it has far superior performance, short-cut keys, and analytical options. Being able to see the calculations easily for non-technical people is also a big advantage over other analytical products like Jupyter notebooks (e.g. Python / r) or SAS. Of course for really big data / stats modelling you need to use SAS/notebooks/stata (not a fan of the last one). Horses for Courses.
raxxorrax 7y ago
No serious engineer I ever met used Google docs for extended calculations. Although there are curious difference in software use depending on your location.

tluyben2 7y ago

Depends on what you are doing right? Most people use spreadsheets for lists and simple sum() type of things; sheets works fine for that and is convenient. Same for the other gsuite stuff. Those sweeping statements never work; hordes of young people or ‘new computer users’ (people in poorer countries who can now afford tablets and low end laptops etc) never touched MS Office and won’t be thinking ‘where is my Excel?’ only for that reason and just complete their work in sheets. These are often people doing production work and not kids who are playing.

C1sc0cat 7y ago
Depends I have seen young supposedly "digital natives" use lesser tools like the google tools and create a complete Charlie Foxtrots Normally they have zero idea about professional project work the concept of a version controlled document is something they have never heard off And we are talking Major Brands and Major agencies here
- DailyHN 7y ago
  Does excel version control come anywhere near sheets history feature?
  - C1sc0cat 7y ago
    The entire concept of version control is something that whooshes by them 50,00ft I was talking about having documents in source control vitally important when you may have ,multiple teams in several countries
    - DailyHN 7y ago
      > Google Docs solves the 95% case of version-control simply by bringing everyone to the head of master at all times.
- adgasf 7y ago
  Google Docs solves the 95% case of version-control simply by bringing everyone to the head of master at all times.
  - lrem 7y ago
    And further 3% by having a linear revision history. With some luck it will even render diffs correctly. Disclaimer: I work at Google and hate docs. But acknowledge the thing works ok for its intended user.

Certhas 7y ago

Collaborative editing of large, complex documents involving dozens of domain experts. The collaborative features of GSuite are best in industry, some other features are so - so. I know what expert Excel users can do with it, and it's truly impressive in its domain. But if I need to do that type of stuff I reach for Python typically.

Gowan29 7y ago

Agreed. As a longterm users of both Excel and Google sheets, for simple tasks G-sheets is enough (and probably better for sharing). But any complex modelling should be done in Excel - it has far superior performance, short-cut keys, and analytical options. Being able to see the calculations easily for non-technical people is also a big advantage over other analytical products like Jupyter notebooks (e.g. Python / r) or SAS. Of course for really big data / stats modelling you need to use SAS/notebooks/stata (not a fan of the last one). Horses for Courses.

raxxorrax 7y ago

No serious engineer I ever met used Google docs for extended calculations. Although there are curious difference in software use depending on your location.