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Considering this is just a source code dump and call for possible contributors I'm disappointed it was even posted to Hacker News. Rome is not ready at all for

Considering this is just a source code dump and call for possible contributors I'm disappointed it was even posted to Hacker News. Rome is not ready at all for public consumption. I wanted it open sourced so I could work with other tooling authors and contributors.

oefrha 7y ago
Would you mind commenting on what it intends to be and what its value propositions would be when it's eventually ready for public consumption? An opinionated all-in-one platform?
- pts_ 7y ago
  It says so right in the readme. It's a formatter, linter, bundler, compiler(transpiler?) all in one.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    I’m looking for something more specific than that. To go to such great lengths, the value propositions have to be more than just bundling a few things together. (And I did read the project philosophy section.)
    - jiofih 7y ago
      If you’ve used Metro or Webpack before there is very little explaining to do. The existing tooling is bloated, fragmented (think 40k deps) and slow, and the experience of sewing it all together and keeping it in one piece extremely frustrating.
      - oefrha 7y ago
        I have, but there’s still a lot of explaining to do. E.g., what’s the extensibility story? To do anything remotely useful with webpack you need to install a million loaders and plugins, but the plugin architecture also lets you do a lot that can’t be done with opinionated bundlers. So, what’s Rome’s approach to this? Enumerating existing tooling’s problems does not automatically guarantee something better.
        hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
        The author has commented that this isn't yet ready for public consumption, but is instead just a call for other possible contributors to the project. So: 1. Everything you seem to be asking for seems like it is not relevant at this point in the project's lifecycle. 2. IMO people who are capable of providing good contributions don't actually need what you are asking for. They can review the README as is, review the source code, etc. In short, patience.
      - Vinnl 7y ago
        I don't think "less bloated/fragmented/slow Webpack and co" is what sebmck intends its USP to be. It sounds more like he expects there to be some advantages to arise specifically from a single tool doing everything related to processing source code, e.g. the linter being able to catch bugs by also being aware of how code will end up after bundling. It would be interesting to see examples of specific such advantages that could be gained, because I'm having a hard time thinking of any.
  - 95th 7y ago
    I think Deno has the same concept.
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OJFord 7y ago
Seriously? I can't think of a better way to 'call for possible contributors'.
- girvo 7y ago
  I’m pretty sure they meant reaching directly out to other tooling authors, rather than the general public
  - Chris2048 7y ago
    I don't think HN is general public
  - OJFord 7y ago
    It's a public repo under a Facebook org; it's bound to be picked up on Reddit if it hasn't been already. Personally, HN would be my go-to if I had a project to show and for which I was hoping for some high-quality collaboration. If by 'reaching directly out' you mean contacting specific people, then it shouldn't be a public repo. Like I said, it's under a Facebook org, of course others will find it.
mst 7y ago
I remember many years back uploading a module to CPAN at version 0.001001 with docs that said "actual docs not written yet, this release was made so other cpan authors I was talking to could experiment more easily". Two days later I got a one-star review on the now-defunct cpanratings site complaining about the lack of documentation.
traverseda 7y ago
Well it wasn't built in a day.

oefrha 7y ago

Would you mind commenting on what it intends to be and what its value propositions would be when it's eventually ready for public consumption? An opinionated all-in-one platform?

pts_ 7y ago
It says so right in the readme. It's a formatter, linter, bundler, compiler(transpiler?) all in one.
- oefrha 7y ago
  I’m looking for something more specific than that. To go to such great lengths, the value propositions have to be more than just bundling a few things together. (And I did read the project philosophy section.)
  - jiofih 7y ago
    If you’ve used Metro or Webpack before there is very little explaining to do. The existing tooling is bloated, fragmented (think 40k deps) and slow, and the experience of sewing it all together and keeping it in one piece extremely frustrating.
    - oefrha 7y ago
      I have, but there’s still a lot of explaining to do. E.g., what’s the extensibility story? To do anything remotely useful with webpack you need to install a million loaders and plugins, but the plugin architecture also lets you do a lot that can’t be done with opinionated bundlers. So, what’s Rome’s approach to this? Enumerating existing tooling’s problems does not automatically guarantee something better.
      - hn_throwaway_99 7y ago
        The author has commented that this isn't yet ready for public consumption, but is instead just a call for other possible contributors to the project. So: 1. Everything you seem to be asking for seems like it is not relevant at this point in the project's lifecycle. 2. IMO people who are capable of providing good contributions don't actually need what you are asking for. They can review the README as is, review the source code, etc. In short, patience.
    - Vinnl 7y ago
      I don't think "less bloated/fragmented/slow Webpack and co" is what sebmck intends its USP to be. It sounds more like he expects there to be some advantages to arise specifically from a single tool doing everything related to processing source code, e.g. the linter being able to catch bugs by also being aware of how code will end up after bundling. It would be interesting to see examples of specific such advantages that could be gained, because I'm having a hard time thinking of any.
- 95th 7y ago
  I think Deno has the same concept.

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OJFord 7y ago

Seriously? I can't think of a better way to 'call for possible contributors'.

girvo 7y ago
I’m pretty sure they meant reaching directly out to other tooling authors, rather than the general public
- Chris2048 7y ago
  I don't think HN is general public
- OJFord 7y ago
  It's a public repo under a Facebook org; it's bound to be picked up on Reddit if it hasn't been already. Personally, HN would be my go-to if I had a project to show and for which I was hoping for some high-quality collaboration. If by 'reaching directly out' you mean contacting specific people, then it shouldn't be a public repo. Like I said, it's under a Facebook org, of course others will find it.

mst 7y ago

I remember many years back uploading a module to CPAN at version 0.001001 with docs that said "actual docs not written yet, this release was made so other cpan authors I was talking to could experiment more easily". Two days later I got a one-star review on the now-defunct cpanratings site complaining about the lack of documentation.

traverseda 7y ago

Well it wasn't built in a day.