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The first and last must just be geolocation based, right? Like, these two people are in a room together every X day for Y hours... they probably know each other

by hbosch 7y ago

The first and last must just be geolocation based, right? Like, these two people are in a room together every X day for Y hours... they probably know each other. The sperm donor guy, though... facial recognition? No idea.

axlee 7y ago
More likely adress book / phone contacts import.
- titzer 7y ago
  The geo thing is really happening.
  - Slartie 7y ago
    I also have the theory that they are using WiFi names / AP MAC addresses as well. If you happen to be connected to the same private WiFi network, you probably know each other.
    - jodrellblank 7y ago
      Facebook has a patent for using dust and scratches on photos to track which camera they came from. But they claime(d) not to be using WiFi or Geolocation for the PYMK feature - https://gizmodo.com/facebook-knows-how-to-track-you-using-the-dust-on-your-1821030620 https://gizmodo.com/facebook-knows-how-to-track-you-using-th...
      - Slartie 7y ago
        Based on the track record of other Facebook claims of the "we don't do X" type, this is basically proof that they do and/or did do both of these things. Maybe "accidentially" and "unintentionally" ;-)
  - itronitron 7y ago
    so a stalker will get recommended to a 'stalkee' ?
    - Loughla 7y ago
      I mean, part of the use case there is that the 'stalkee' will at least be notified that the person s/he has seen four or five times is definitely stalking them. So that's good, I guess. This post is obviously sarcasm.
  - paxys 7y ago
    As one of the factors probably, but they don't recommend random people who are nearby. There has to be some actual connection (friend-of-friend, address book, in the same group etc.)
    - titzer 7y ago
      > but they don't recommend random people who are nearby I think that's probably true. You need to spend sufficient time near someone--like within a few feet or so. I had an interesting experience where Facebook recommended me as a friend to someone I sat next to on an airplane, with whom I had a conversation with. My phone was in airplane mode. Not sure how that happened, TBH!
      - wolfoftheweb 7y ago
        It could be based on connecting to the same in-flight WiFi.
        winrid 7y ago
        And you might be able to correlate seating with WiFi strength? :)
      - gibolt 7y ago
        They probably looked you up afterwards on Facebook or another site using Facebook analytics.
  - dreamcompiler 7y ago
    Which is one big reason why the only sensible way to use Facebook on mobile is to delete the app and use only a browser, while keeping your location sensors turned off.
    - boring_twenties 7y ago
      There is a nice app called Frost that is basically a wrapper around the web interface with convenience features, and is free (i.e., available on F-Droid).
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  - woutr_be 7y ago
    Happened to me a few times, some people I randomly met in a bar where recommended to me the next day, super creepy.
    - axlee 7y ago
      Could not be because they checked you out by name on facebook?
      - woutr_be 7y ago
        Possible, although I've only given them my first name. And this is not just on one occasions, it has happened multiple times. My best guess has always been that Facebook uses some geo targeting to see who was at the same location at the same time.
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rococode 7y ago
There's gotta be more to that sperm donor story. "Oh that must be my biological kid from that sperm bank trip 20 years ago" is not the natural train of thought when you see someone who maybe vaguely looks like you as a suggestion on Facebook. And whatever the other context was - maybe one of them searching for the other - probably gave Facebook what it needed to make the connection.
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  Data bought from 23AndMe ?
aaron695 7y ago
> The sperm donor guy How did the Sperm Donor know it was his child? Find that and that's how Facebook knows. To look at a friend suggestion and know it's your child means you have been in contact with someone past the donation stage. Nothing about how Facebook offers suggestions are secret to my knowledge. All that's happening is people are not aware how easy it is to find information from networks
djannzjkzxn 7y ago
There’s no need to speculate - the article we are commenting on informs us that happened through email contact sharing.
cpv 7y ago
In the recent events, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22178917 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22178917 we have learned that there is a lot of data moving around, including various third-parties.

by hbosch 7y ago

axlee 7y ago

More likely adress book / phone contacts import.

titzer 7y ago
The geo thing is really happening.
- Slartie 7y ago
  I also have the theory that they are using WiFi names / AP MAC addresses as well. If you happen to be connected to the same private WiFi network, you probably know each other.
  - jodrellblank 7y ago
    Facebook has a patent for using dust and scratches on photos to track which camera they came from. But they claime(d) not to be using WiFi or Geolocation for the PYMK feature - https://gizmodo.com/facebook-knows-how-to-track-you-using-the-dust-on-your-1821030620 https://gizmodo.com/facebook-knows-how-to-track-you-using-th...
    - Slartie 7y ago
      Based on the track record of other Facebook claims of the "we don't do X" type, this is basically proof that they do and/or did do both of these things. Maybe "accidentially" and "unintentionally" ;-)
- itronitron 7y ago
  so a stalker will get recommended to a 'stalkee' ?
  - Loughla 7y ago
    I mean, part of the use case there is that the 'stalkee' will at least be notified that the person s/he has seen four or five times is definitely stalking them. So that's good, I guess. This post is obviously sarcasm.
- paxys 7y ago
  As one of the factors probably, but they don't recommend random people who are nearby. There has to be some actual connection (friend-of-friend, address book, in the same group etc.)
  - titzer 7y ago
    > but they don't recommend random people who are nearby I think that's probably true. You need to spend sufficient time near someone--like within a few feet or so. I had an interesting experience where Facebook recommended me as a friend to someone I sat next to on an airplane, with whom I had a conversation with. My phone was in airplane mode. Not sure how that happened, TBH!
    - wolfoftheweb 7y ago
      It could be based on connecting to the same in-flight WiFi.
      - winrid 7y ago
        And you might be able to correlate seating with WiFi strength? :)
    - gibolt 7y ago
      They probably looked you up afterwards on Facebook or another site using Facebook analytics.
- dreamcompiler 7y ago
  Which is one big reason why the only sensible way to use Facebook on mobile is to delete the app and use only a browser, while keeping your location sensors turned off.
  - boring_twenties 7y ago
    There is a nice app called Frost that is basically a wrapper around the web interface with convenience features, and is free (i.e., available on F-Droid).
- deleted 7y ago
  [deleted]
- woutr_be 7y ago
  Happened to me a few times, some people I randomly met in a bar where recommended to me the next day, super creepy.
  - axlee 7y ago
    Could not be because they checked you out by name on facebook?
    - woutr_be 7y ago
      Possible, although I've only given them my first name. And this is not just on one occasions, it has happened multiple times. My best guess has always been that Facebook uses some geo targeting to see who was at the same location at the same time.
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rococode 7y ago

There's gotta be more to that sperm donor story. "Oh that must be my biological kid from that sperm bank trip 20 years ago" is not the natural train of thought when you see someone who maybe vaguely looks like you as a suggestion on Facebook. And whatever the other context was - maybe one of them searching for the other - probably gave Facebook what it needed to make the connection.

NullPrefix 7y ago
Data bought from 23AndMe ?

aaron695 7y ago

> The sperm donor guy How did the Sperm Donor know it was his child? Find that and that's how Facebook knows. To look at a friend suggestion and know it's your child means you have been in contact with someone past the donation stage. Nothing about how Facebook offers suggestions are secret to my knowledge. All that's happening is people are not aware how easy it is to find information from networks

djannzjkzxn 7y ago

There’s no need to speculate - the article we are commenting on informs us that happened through email contact sharing.

cpv 7y ago

In the recent events, like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22178917 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22178917 we have learned that there is a lot of data moving around, including various third-parties.