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>the idea of potentially walking among clones made me sick Well for sure you are walking among "test tube babies" (IVF) where an egg is fertilized by donor sp
by throwaway_tech 7y ago
>the idea of potentially walking among clones made me sick
Well for sure you are walking among "test tube babies" (IVF) where an egg is fertilized by donor sperm and transferred into a uterus, (sometimes the biological mother and sometimes a non-biological "host").
I don't really see the difference from starting with donor sperm and donor egg and starting with donor cell and donor egg.
Admittedly I have read all kinds of case law in this area (not clones but parental rights with respect to biological mothers/children and host mothers), so perhaps I am a little desensitized to the uniqueness and reality of birthing options made available today.
- agumonkey 7y agoFair point, but IVF are a single new person, not an existing one you'd copy.
- shrimp_emoji 7y agoAre you also scared of twins?
- thaumasiotes 7y agoYou're also walking among many, many real-life clones. They occur naturally at a rate of about 1 in 400 births.
- tdy721 7y agoThis is what I was looking for. I mean... Twins right. Sources are great though. Sauce?
- thaumasiotes 7y agoMy mother is an OB/GYN, that's where I get the 1 in 400 rate from. Quick googling will tell you that the identical twin rate is 3 per thousand ( https://www.verywellfamily.com/identical-twins-2447126 https://www.verywellfamily.com/identical-twins-2447126 ) or 4 per thousand ( https://twinsmagazine.com/incidence-of-twins-by-twin-type/ https://twinsmagazine.com/incidence-of-twins-by-twin-type/ ), or half the rate of fraternal twins (the first link again, but this is false -- the rate of fraternal twinning depends on the parents' race, but the rate of identical twinning doesn't).
- MereInterest 7y agoWhy would you consider a clone to be a copy of a person? They share genetics, but not background, childhood memories, development, etc.