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Looks kind of like WebView [1] which I earnestly tried but eventually abandoned. Using the system-provided web engine is great for space savings, but terrible f

Looks kind of like WebView [1] which I earnestly tried but eventually abandoned. Using the system-provided web engine is great for space savings, but terrible for cross-compatibility and feature availability owing to having to use IE on Windows. [1] https://github.com/zserge/webview https://github.com/zserge/webview

dingdingdang 7y ago
The good thing about webview is that it does not use localhost:8080 for internal comms!
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valdiorn 7y ago
Isn't the "system provided web engine" now Edge on Windows 10, and has been fore a while?
- api 7y ago
  So that means only 25% of your users will still have IE since they never upgrade? Then you have corporate environments where IT held back Edge because internal business software requires IE. (Yes that is still a thing. Yes you can install them both. Yes, IT will still do that.) Then you have systems where some badly written installer broke the native web view but the user isn't noticing because they only use Chrome. This is Windows after all.
- hamaluik 7y ago
  AFAIK, there's a difference between MSHTML (internet explorer) and EdgeHTML (edge / trident). But even then, Edge can be somewhat lacking depending on your use case [1]. For simple apps that just need a simple UI without spending time developing cross-platform, this solution is great! Unfortunately the projects I've had to develop require newer features and/or performance lent by using the Chromium Embedded Framework that simply aren't possible, even if Edge was available. [1] https://caniuse.com/#compare=ie+11,edge+12,chrome+80 https://caniuse.com/#compare=ie+11,edge+12,chrome+80
- WorldMaker 7y ago
  In UWP yes, but not in Win32. Win32 has always been stuck on IE's MSHTML.dll controls, up until either XAML Islands for the WinRT-based EdgeHTML (coming soon, in preview today) or "Webview2" [1] for the Chromium Edge (coming soon, in preview today). [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webview2 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webv...
- zserge 7y ago
  Yes, there is webview-x branch that is to be merged in March, that uses Edge (both variants of it) as the default engine on windows.
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dingdingdang 7y ago

The good thing about webview is that it does not use localhost:8080 for internal comms!

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valdiorn 7y ago

Isn't the "system provided web engine" now Edge on Windows 10, and has been fore a while?

api 7y ago
So that means only 25% of your users will still have IE since they never upgrade? Then you have corporate environments where IT held back Edge because internal business software requires IE. (Yes that is still a thing. Yes you can install them both. Yes, IT will still do that.) Then you have systems where some badly written installer broke the native web view but the user isn't noticing because they only use Chrome. This is Windows after all.
hamaluik 7y ago
AFAIK, there's a difference between MSHTML (internet explorer) and EdgeHTML (edge / trident). But even then, Edge can be somewhat lacking depending on your use case [1]. For simple apps that just need a simple UI without spending time developing cross-platform, this solution is great! Unfortunately the projects I've had to develop require newer features and/or performance lent by using the Chromium Embedded Framework that simply aren't possible, even if Edge was available. [1] https://caniuse.com/#compare=ie+11,edge+12,chrome+80 https://caniuse.com/#compare=ie+11,edge+12,chrome+80
WorldMaker 7y ago
In UWP yes, but not in Win32. Win32 has always been stuck on IE's MSHTML.dll controls, up until either XAML Islands for the WinRT-based EdgeHTML (coming soon, in preview today) or "Webview2" [1] for the Chromium Edge (coming soon, in preview today). [1] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webview2 https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/hosting/webv...
zserge 7y ago
Yes, there is webview-x branch that is to be merged in March, that uses Edge (both variants of it) as the default engine on windows.

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