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> coronavirus not contained by late May ?? It cannot be "contained" any more. Consensus is it's pandemic, it's not hard to see. Do we not understand how this

> coronavirus not contained by late May ?? It cannot be "contained" any more. Consensus is it's pandemic, it's not hard to see. Do we not understand how this works? What do reporters or the public think can happen? Even if there is a vaccination, which in reality will be years off, we can't even vaccinate measles across the world and certainly not by 'May'. We can't even supply gloves and face masks at the levels we need.

judge2020 7y ago
https://www.wsj.com/articles/drugmaker-moderna-delivers-first-coronavirus-vaccine-for-human-testing-11582579099 https://www.wsj.com/articles/drugmaker-moderna-delivers-firs...
- akmarinov 7y ago
  https://twitter.com/mmcauliff/status/1232344683348668416?s=21 https://twitter.com/mmcauliff/status/1232344683348668416?s=2...
- sliken 7y ago
  I saw a quote recently saying something like claiming they have a surgeon making claims about an amazing new surgical procedure because they have an idea and a scalpel working. No proof that it works, doesn't have terrible side effects, or actually does anything useful on humans.
- hobofan 7y ago
  And with that announcement, their stock price rose almost to their all-time high. Just as the stock price of the in-silico drug discovery platform did that claimed to have a vaccine within a day or so. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then the estimate of 1-2 years (which is already pretty fast for a vaccine that isn't already on a yearly-cycle like the flu shot), sounds far more likely.
quelltext 7y ago
IIRC the SARS outbreak in 2003 was "contained" within that year.
- cycrutchfield 7y ago
  We are orders of magnitudes larger than the SARS outbreak at this point.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - m0zg 7y ago
    It's also 17 years between then and now, and we've made great strides in antiviral drug research. Trials for COVID-19 specific antiviral drug have already started, and there already exists a vaccine for it as well. Let's not do doom&gloom here. The press does it for clicks, but there's no reason for normal, sane people to buy into this clickbait bullshit.
  - SECProto 7y ago
    > We are orders of magnitudes larger than the SARS outbreak at this point an order* SARS had ~8500 cases, ~800 deaths [1]. COVID-19 is currently ~81000 cases and ~2700 deaths.[2] It will be orders, plural, at some point, but remains to be seen how big (and I won't speculate on that). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2003_Probable_cases_of_SARS_-_Worldwide.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2003_Probable_cases_of_SA... [2] https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
    - totalZero 7y ago
      In my mind at least, all of these numbers are applesauce. Our ability to trust these numbers hinges on our ability to trust information reported by China's government and other authoritarian regimes (eg Iran and North Korea).
toast0 7y ago
You wouldn't need to vaccinate the world to host an event. Vaccinate the participants and the antendees and the staff.

judge2020 7y ago

https://www.wsj.com/articles/drugmaker-moderna-delivers-first-coronavirus-vaccine-for-human-testing-11582579099 https://www.wsj.com/articles/drugmaker-moderna-delivers-firs...

akmarinov 7y ago
https://twitter.com/mmcauliff/status/1232344683348668416?s=21 https://twitter.com/mmcauliff/status/1232344683348668416?s=2...
sliken 7y ago
I saw a quote recently saying something like claiming they have a surgeon making claims about an amazing new surgical procedure because they have an idea and a scalpel working. No proof that it works, doesn't have terrible side effects, or actually does anything useful on humans.
hobofan 7y ago
And with that announcement, their stock price rose almost to their all-time high. Just as the stock price of the in-silico drug discovery platform did that claimed to have a vaccine within a day or so. I'll believe it when I see it. Until then the estimate of 1-2 years (which is already pretty fast for a vaccine that isn't already on a yearly-cycle like the flu shot), sounds far more likely.

quelltext 7y ago

IIRC the SARS outbreak in 2003 was "contained" within that year.

cycrutchfield 7y ago
We are orders of magnitudes larger than the SARS outbreak at this point.
- deleted 7y ago
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- m0zg 7y ago
  It's also 17 years between then and now, and we've made great strides in antiviral drug research. Trials for COVID-19 specific antiviral drug have already started, and there already exists a vaccine for it as well. Let's not do doom&gloom here. The press does it for clicks, but there's no reason for normal, sane people to buy into this clickbait bullshit.
- SECProto 7y ago
  > We are orders of magnitudes larger than the SARS outbreak at this point an order* SARS had ~8500 cases, ~800 deaths [1]. COVID-19 is currently ~81000 cases and ~2700 deaths.[2] It will be orders, plural, at some point, but remains to be seen how big (and I won't speculate on that). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2003_Probable_cases_of_SARS_-_Worldwide.svg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:2003_Probable_cases_of_SA... [2] https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/bda7594740fd40299423467b48e9ecf6 https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.h...
  - totalZero 7y ago
    In my mind at least, all of these numbers are applesauce. Our ability to trust these numbers hinges on our ability to trust information reported by China's government and other authoritarian regimes (eg Iran and North Korea).

toast0 7y ago

You wouldn't need to vaccinate the world to host an event. Vaccinate the participants and the antendees and the staff.