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> “No one is qualified to discuss this sort of news at all,” Haririchi said This almost made me laugh out loud, tragic though any deaths and disablement are. I

• Angostura 7y ago
  Sounds like a slightly mangled quote - I think he's saying that no-one outside of the ministry has access to the Coronavirus mortality figures, so the lawmaker is presumably pulling the figures out of his butt.
  • oefrha 7y ago
    The immediate sentence following gp’s out of context quote: > adding that lawmakers have no access to coronavirus statics and could be mixing figures on deaths related to other diseases like the flu with the new virus, which first emerged in China in December. So, not necessarily out of his butt, could be mixed up. In any case, 12 dead out of 61 (a quickly rising figure) is already terrible.
    • _-___________-_ 7y ago
      The 61 is almost certainly rising much more quickly than the 12. Many cases don't get counted early on, so the fatality rate at this stage is overstated and largely meaningless. Same thing happened everywhere else with a suddenly-noticed largeish outbreak.
      • oefrha 7y ago
        > Same thing happened everywhere else with a suddenly-noticed largeish outbreak. I’ve been paying pretty close attention since early on and nowhere else with a suddenly-noticed largish outbreak had a temporary death rate remotely close to 20%. Not even in Wuhan. In fact 12 deaths currently ranks #3 on the global death count chart when each Chinese province is counted as a separate entity, and any comparable entity has an order of magnitude more cases at least. Also, it was 8 deaths out of 43 yesterday, so 61 isn’t growing faster than 12. Without more info, I blame this on shitty medical treatment. 20% roughly matches the percentage of severe cases elsewhere.
        • zaroth 7y ago
          See upthread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22403326 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22403326
          • oefrha 7y ago
            I’ve seen that terrible argument with “closed figures” a couple of times now but don’t really have the time or patience to write a long rebuttal. That, and the fact that the post you responded to is comparing apples to apples and does not rely on the validity of any one fatality rate estimation methodology.
    • swsieber 7y ago
      They almost certainly have more than 61 cases, if 12 are already dead. I'd say hundreds, if the only people who were on track to die did die already.
• _pmf_ 7y ago
  50 deaths mean nothing if you don't have the number of deaths due to more classic strains to compare it against.