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Can you cite a study that shows that Asians have the highest poverty rate in NYC. I'd be interested to see that. As for discrimination against Asians, what are

Can you cite a study that shows that Asians have the highest poverty rate in NYC. I'd be interested to see that. As for discrimination against Asians, what are you referring to exactly?

SpicyLemonZest 7y ago
The city government's official site has lots of breakdowns on it[1]. Picking "Total NYC Population", "Race/Ethnicity", "Poverty" shows that Asian poverty has been the highest since 2007. The idea that an admissions policy is unacceptable if it admits too many Asians is, I assume, the discrimination being referred to. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/opportunity/poverty-in-nyc/data-tool.page https://www1.nyc.gov/site/opportunity/poverty-in-nyc/data-to...
TuringNYC 7y ago
>> As for discrimination against Asians, what are you referring to exactly? This is widespread in NYC. Notice how convenient it is to "democratize" the Science High School exam procedure (where Asians took the most seats) while conveniently avoiding the democratizing of other things (where Asians did not do well.) For Example - Bard High School and other Private-ish public schools continue to go by the old system. Asians are under represented, and the city conveniently chose not to democratize this. For a more extreme example, what about about sports teams at NYC high schools. Asians are massively under-represented in basketball and other teams, why aren't these democratized for equal representation? Why stop at students. Have you noticed how few NYC school principals are Asians? Why aren't these jobs democratized for equal representation? Same for a host of cushy BoE jobs/titles/positions which offer lifetime benefits -- why arent these opened up to Asians? Basically, when Asians do well, the system is changed to demand equal representation. In places Asians dont do well, the system is kept as is.
- charlesu 7y ago
  NYC wants to change to admissions process from being based on a single standardized test to being based on middle school class rank plus a standardized test. Under the current system, some middle schools send a lot of students, some send a few, and many send zero. Including class rank into the admissions criteria would change that. The change would probably increase the representation of black and Latino students at schools like Stuyvesant while maintaining an objective measure of merit: class rank. This change might help desegregate NYCs public schools by giving white and Asian parents a reason to send their kid to a majority black or Latino school. It could make middle schools more diverse as well. How would we use this same form of selection to increase Asian representation on high school basketball teams? It's already a de facto class rank system: each high school's basketball team is made of its best players. What's your proposal?

Can you cite a study that shows that Asians have the highest poverty rate in NYC. I'd be interested to see that. As for discrimination against Asians, what are you referring to exactly?

SpicyLemonZest 7y ago

The city government's official site has lots of breakdowns on it[1]. Picking "Total NYC Population", "Race/Ethnicity", "Poverty" shows that Asian poverty has been the highest since 2007. The idea that an admissions policy is unacceptable if it admits too many Asians is, I assume, the discrimination being referred to. https://www1.nyc.gov/site/opportunity/poverty-in-nyc/data-tool.page https://www1.nyc.gov/site/opportunity/poverty-in-nyc/data-to...

TuringNYC 7y ago

>> As for discrimination against Asians, what are you referring to exactly? This is widespread in NYC. Notice how convenient it is to "democratize" the Science High School exam procedure (where Asians took the most seats) while conveniently avoiding the democratizing of other things (where Asians did not do well.) For Example - Bard High School and other Private-ish public schools continue to go by the old system. Asians are under represented, and the city conveniently chose not to democratize this. For a more extreme example, what about about sports teams at NYC high schools. Asians are massively under-represented in basketball and other teams, why aren't these democratized for equal representation? Why stop at students. Have you noticed how few NYC school principals are Asians? Why aren't these jobs democratized for equal representation? Same for a host of cushy BoE jobs/titles/positions which offer lifetime benefits -- why arent these opened up to Asians? Basically, when Asians do well, the system is changed to demand equal representation. In places Asians dont do well, the system is kept as is.

charlesu 7y ago
NYC wants to change to admissions process from being based on a single standardized test to being based on middle school class rank plus a standardized test. Under the current system, some middle schools send a lot of students, some send a few, and many send zero. Including class rank into the admissions criteria would change that. The change would probably increase the representation of black and Latino students at schools like Stuyvesant while maintaining an objective measure of merit: class rank. This change might help desegregate NYCs public schools by giving white and Asian parents a reason to send their kid to a majority black or Latino school. It could make middle schools more diverse as well. How would we use this same form of selection to increase Asian representation on high school basketball teams? It's already a de facto class rank system: each high school's basketball team is made of its best players. What's your proposal?