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> They bothered to ask me how I'd deal with diversity issues if I was in HR, though. I probably didn't get the job because of my answers there... Strange posts
by deanCommie 7y ago
> They bothered to ask me how I'd deal with diversity issues if I was in HR, though. I probably didn't get the job because of my answers there...
Strange postscript that suggests you hold some problematic opinions that indicate you can't play nicely with others?
Did you fail to get the job because you didn't have the tech chops or is it because you said something wildly inappropriate on the behavioural questions?
What did you say?
- winrid 7y agoI'm not trying to start a fight on HN. I just said that you should hire the best people you can. I screwed up a sorting impl. that I never bothered to practice.
- ethanwillis 7y agoActually problematic or just problematic to someone at Google?
- lostlogin 7y agoThe way the (very briefly described) question was asked does sound like a clever way of getting some ideas about candidate views and beliefs.
- vikasg 7y agoSour grapes, more like. If simply asking how they'd work with people from diverse backgrounds was triggering enough for this person, the process worked perfectly in rejecting them.
- winrid 7y agoThat wasn't the question... It was, if I was an HR director, what would I do in different situations.
- lostlogin 7y agoI could be very wrong and am no HR expert, but I don’t think that question was actually about what would happen if you were an HR director. They wanted your thoughts on those situations in regards to the position you were apply for.
- winrid 7y agoRight. I just thought it was funny they asked that and less technical questions, or better real-world questions. It wasn't "triggering" or anything! I happy gave my opinion and moved on to the other questions.
- BurningFrog 7y agoThis kind of question can be heard as a dogwhistle for "Are you a leftist? We only hire leftists."
- deanCommie 7y agoThat's true, in our industry it seems that only leftists aren't assholes. So if you don't want to hire assholes who think "diversity" is a dog whistle, you hire leftists.
- BurningFrog 7y agoYou seem real inclusive :)
- deanCommie 7y agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance Inclusivity does not mean having to include those that would exclude others.
- BurningFrog 7y agoI don't mind excluding the odd violent extremist. But if you exclude all non leftists, that's about 2/3 of all Americans. And that looks very tribal to the rest of us. The mandatory brilliant essay on this: https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anything-except-the-outgroup/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/09/30/i-can-tolerate-anythin...
- deanCommie 7y agoHow much of that 2/3 is college educated in the software industry, and is technically competent enough to pass the bar at Google? But that's being overly provocative. Ultimately this started with you saying that a question about diversity could be heard by some as a dog whistle that only leftists are welcome. I simply don't agree with that premise. I do think there is a percentage of people who think diversity is a left-only issue, but I don't think that's 2/3rd of Americans. Then again, Donald Trump hovers around 50% approval rating regardless of what he does, so maybe I have too high an opinion of Americans.