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LoFi hip hop radio – YouTube channel suspended, then restored

37 points by nem_pet 7y ago

cheeze 7y ago
I hate YouTube. I wish there was any legitimate competitor out there.
- krapp 7y ago
  Define "legitimate." There are plenty of competitors which could host the channel mentioned in TFA, and many Youtubers also post videos on other social media sites, Twitch, etc.
- ta999999171 7y ago
  Streamable, LiveLeak, PeerTube. What other needs do you have?
butz 7y ago
Is moving to PeerTube a viable alternative?
- zapzupnz 7y ago
  Not really. The way that people use this live stream is often via YouTube integration with other services rather than via YouTube directly.
  - petercooper 7y ago
    What are you referring to? I've only ever had it play in a YouTube tab in the background.
    - zapzupnz 7y ago
      Live streams. It’s extremely popular as background sound for Twitch streams and, rather than load the tab an direct the audio into broadcasting software, people put the YouTube link into other services that overlay the music on the stream before broadcast.
      - petercooper 7y ago
        Interesting, hadn't thought of that
Hamuko 7y ago
Already outdated. https://mobile.twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/1231302926611644421 https://mobile.twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/123130292661164...
smaddock 7y ago
The channel has been restored. https://twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/1231302926611644421 https://twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/1231302926611644421 This is another case where having a large, supportive audience is one of the only ways of getting Google's attention.
nem_pet 7y ago
I marked the post with outdated because YT channel has been restored.
ydnaclementine 7y ago
A little background on this particular channel: ChilledCow is the user who had a stream named "Lofi hip hop, music to relax/study to". The channel was undoubtedly the most popular lofi music live stream on youtube, and has been around for a few years at least (pretty sure). The channel just streamed a playlist of lofi music as a pseudo radio station. Nothing nefarious in my opinion, but I speculate the argument could be this user is making youtube ad money playing other people's music (with or without permission from the artist)? But again, it's basically a radio station (really no different from analog FM/AM things). Really interesting to even see this posted on HN. I was looking for ChilledCow's channel while I was cooking lunch today, couldn't find it, and wasn't sure why.
rslonik 7y ago
It's increasingly difficult to have "business" with the big tech. I lived many years anxious with my Google AdSense account. Recently it a was a Facebook Ads account banned without any clear reason, and a 5yr old Pinterest account too. When the algorithm decides, you are terminated. It just don't matter if you follow all the "TOS" rules.
teilo 7y ago
The electronic music community in general has zero interest in preventing their music from being spread far and wide, with attribution. Remixing another producers work, for example, is just part of the culture. No one gets DCMA'd for it. Quite the opposite. It's encouraged. It's one of the things I love about this community.

37 points by nem_pet 7y ago

cheeze 7y ago

I hate YouTube. I wish there was any legitimate competitor out there.

krapp 7y ago
Define "legitimate." There are plenty of competitors which could host the channel mentioned in TFA, and many Youtubers also post videos on other social media sites, Twitch, etc.
ta999999171 7y ago
Streamable, LiveLeak, PeerTube. What other needs do you have?

butz 7y ago

Is moving to PeerTube a viable alternative?

zapzupnz 7y ago
Not really. The way that people use this live stream is often via YouTube integration with other services rather than via YouTube directly.
- petercooper 7y ago
  What are you referring to? I've only ever had it play in a YouTube tab in the background.
  - zapzupnz 7y ago
    Live streams. It’s extremely popular as background sound for Twitch streams and, rather than load the tab an direct the audio into broadcasting software, people put the YouTube link into other services that overlay the music on the stream before broadcast.
    - petercooper 7y ago
      Interesting, hadn't thought of that

Hamuko 7y ago

Already outdated. https://mobile.twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/1231302926611644421 https://mobile.twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/123130292661164...

smaddock 7y ago

The channel has been restored. https://twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/1231302926611644421 https://twitter.com/ChilledCow/status/1231302926611644421 This is another case where having a large, supportive audience is one of the only ways of getting Google's attention.

nem_pet 7y ago

I marked the post with outdated because YT channel has been restored.

ydnaclementine 7y ago

A little background on this particular channel: ChilledCow is the user who had a stream named "Lofi hip hop, music to relax/study to". The channel was undoubtedly the most popular lofi music live stream on youtube, and has been around for a few years at least (pretty sure). The channel just streamed a playlist of lofi music as a pseudo radio station. Nothing nefarious in my opinion, but I speculate the argument could be this user is making youtube ad money playing other people's music (with or without permission from the artist)? But again, it's basically a radio station (really no different from analog FM/AM things). Really interesting to even see this posted on HN. I was looking for ChilledCow's channel while I was cooking lunch today, couldn't find it, and wasn't sure why.

rslonik 7y ago

It's increasingly difficult to have "business" with the big tech. I lived many years anxious with my Google AdSense account. Recently it a was a Facebook Ads account banned without any clear reason, and a 5yr old Pinterest account too. When the algorithm decides, you are terminated. It just don't matter if you follow all the "TOS" rules.

teilo 7y ago

The electronic music community in general has zero interest in preventing their music from being spread far and wide, with attribution. Remixing another producers work, for example, is just part of the culture. No one gets DCMA'd for it. Quite the opposite. It's encouraged. It's one of the things I love about this community.