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I used to be open about my salary, until it went wrong. In my first two companies I would openly share my salary, which worked in my favour since I was underpa
by angarg12 7y ago
I used to be open about my salary, until it went wrong.
In my first two companies I would openly share my salary, which worked in my favour since I was underpaid. In my third company, where I had one of the higher salaries, it didn't work so well.
My colleagues refused to share theirs (it transpired they were making less), and that led to a lot of animosity and bad blood. Ever since I don't share anymore, most people have the tools they need online to make an educated guess on how well they are getting paid.
- dnh44 7y agoIf you don't mind telling, how did that result in animosity?
- fastball 7y agoResentment? Pretty common human emotion.
- Aeolun 7y ago“You shouldn’t be making that much! I’m doing just as good a job as you!” (narrator: They didn’t)
- iso1210 7y agoThat's an interesting take "you shouldn't be earning more than me" rather than "I should be earning as much as you" I wonder why (some) people immediately think the former
- BlargMcLarg 7y agoAgency and effort. Or rather, let's change the latter statement so it sounds less entitled: "Why am I not earning as much as you? I should be able to" The latter statement requires the speaker to admit they screwed up. They can get to that point, if they did research on how to get there or worked on the key things they are missing currently. The former statement puts the agency on the opposing party and basically expects some divine will of the heavens to strike them down for their sin of earning more. Most people don't want to change or admit their own mistakes. Or worse, they are indoctrinated by Calvinism.
- aalleavitch 7y agoThis is all very self-indulgent. People don't get paid what they're worth, they get paid the smallest amount someone can get them to accept.
- rcoveson 7y agoJust what do you think the word “worth” means?
- iso1210 7y agoThe amount of value they add Company X needs to employ two people in a role. The person they employ will add $100 an hour of value to the company. Person A has lots of money in the bank from a large inheritence and doesn't need the job to live Person B has desparately needs a job to pat the mortgage Company X offers both $40 an hour Person B takes the offer, as the alternative is reposession Person A says 'no' Company X still wants that extra $100 an hour of value, so offer person B $50 an hour, then $60. Person B then accepts at $60. Both person A and person B are worth $100, neither get paid what they are worth, but person A is paid 50% more than person B.
- CalRobert 7y agoFor what it's worth, I've been telling people how much I made when I leave a job (and have been told by others when they leave) which works ok.
- yibg 7y agoFrom the company's / management's perspective I suspect this is an issue as well. If salaries are transparent then higher and lower salaries need to be justified beyond "they negotiated better". Similar to pay raises. Now if the delta is known, why someone got x% and I got less than x% now requires more delicate conversations. Netflix directors and above can see all salaries though. I wonder how that's working.
- throwaway2245 7y agoI once discovered that my salary was 4x that of my colleague with more experience and the same job title. I had a good understanding of the value I was providing to the business, of what my next best offer was, and I negotiated my salary regularly. (Where my colleague was accepting a rate that was clearly below the market rate) It was challenging for me to share my salary in this case. On reflection, the situation was not politically in my favour to do this: perhaps I should have negotiated a different job title (but I didn't care about that at the time).
- omilu 7y ago4x?? Holy cow. That's a life changing difference.