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We need (a) Linus Torvalds to scratch this itch. We need someone to write a serious open-source alternative, like happened with Linux and git. Only, it's going

by b0rsuk 7y ago

We need (a) Linus Torvalds to scratch this itch. We need someone to write a serious open-source alternative, like happened with Linux and git. Only, it's going to be very difficult for software that needs critical mass to succeed, like chat or social networks. I haven't heard of interoperable social networks, instant messengers, or chat systems. Pidgin works as a wrapper around several IM accounts.

csnover 7y ago
It sounds like you would be interested in Matrix. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)
LinuxBender 7y ago
This has been done with Mumble, it just needs some refinement. Mumble (the client) and Murmur (the server) [1] [2] can handle many people on a small server. I have run a murmur server for a long time and it is very stable. The voice quality is superior to anything else I have used. The client does need a little bit of refinement to be as happy-clicky easy as Discord. If anyone has not tried version 1.3 [3], give it a go. There are public servers if you want to try the client without hosting your own server. Their code is all on Github and I am sure they could offer suggestions if you were using their libraries in your application. [1] - https://www.mumble.info/ https://www.mumble.info/ [2] - https://github.com/mumble-voip/ https://github.com/mumble-voip/ [3] - https://www.mumble.info/blog/mumble-1.3.0-release-announcement/ https://www.mumble.info/blog/mumble-1.3.0-release-announceme...
- Wowfunhappy 7y ago
  One thing I'd really like is for Mumble to stop pushing certificate-based authentication so hard. You can make whatever security arguments you want, but it's going to drive away users. And then they'll still be using passwords anyway, on whatever chat service they use instead of Mumble.
freepor 7y ago
Like git, even an open protocol will come to be dominated by one supplier.
- colonwqbang 7y ago
  Github is very popular in the hobby/open-source world, but their offering still seems very "light" to me. In the "enterprise" world, products like Gerrit and Jira are probably beating github by a large margin.
  - dylz 7y ago
    I can't see how Jira is similar to Github. Do you mean Gitlab or Stash?
    - winrid 7y ago
      He probably means Bitbucket.
      - thu2111 7y ago
        He probably meant what he wrote. Github has an issue tracker after all.
- technoplato 7y ago
  Just like https is dominated!!

by b0rsuk 7y ago

csnover 7y ago

It sounds like you would be interested in Matrix. [0] [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matrix_(protocol)

LinuxBender 7y ago

This has been done with Mumble, it just needs some refinement. Mumble (the client) and Murmur (the server) [1] [2] can handle many people on a small server. I have run a murmur server for a long time and it is very stable. The voice quality is superior to anything else I have used. The client does need a little bit of refinement to be as happy-clicky easy as Discord. If anyone has not tried version 1.3 [3], give it a go. There are public servers if you want to try the client without hosting your own server. Their code is all on Github and I am sure they could offer suggestions if you were using their libraries in your application. [1] - https://www.mumble.info/ https://www.mumble.info/ [2] - https://github.com/mumble-voip/ https://github.com/mumble-voip/ [3] - https://www.mumble.info/blog/mumble-1.3.0-release-announcement/ https://www.mumble.info/blog/mumble-1.3.0-release-announceme...

Wowfunhappy 7y ago
One thing I'd really like is for Mumble to stop pushing certificate-based authentication so hard. You can make whatever security arguments you want, but it's going to drive away users. And then they'll still be using passwords anyway, on whatever chat service they use instead of Mumble.

freepor 7y ago

Like git, even an open protocol will come to be dominated by one supplier.

colonwqbang 7y ago
Github is very popular in the hobby/open-source world, but their offering still seems very "light" to me. In the "enterprise" world, products like Gerrit and Jira are probably beating github by a large margin.
- dylz 7y ago
  I can't see how Jira is similar to Github. Do you mean Gitlab or Stash?
  - winrid 7y ago
    He probably means Bitbucket.
    - thu2111 7y ago
      He probably meant what he wrote. Github has an issue tracker after all.
technoplato 7y ago
Just like https is dominated!!