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"We haven't changed our policies, we're just enforcing them differently" - the 2011 catchphrase for platform providers

by ajg1977 16y ago

Samuel_Michon 16y ago
According to Twitter, the measure was taken after months of warnings: "[Twitter] had conversations with UberMedia, the developer of these applications, about policy violations since April 2010" "[S]everal applications, including UberTwitter, twidroyd and UberCurrent, [...] have violated Twitter policies and trademarks in a variety of ways. These violations include, but aren’t limited to, a privacy issue with private Direct Messages longer than 140 characters, trademark infringement, and changing the content of users’ Tweets in order to make money."
- abraham 16y ago
  UberMedia CEO Bill Gross says these are new issues Twitter never brought up before: “We just talked to Twitter and discussed the various issues they raise. It took us by surprise because they didn’t raise them before." http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/18/ubermedia-bill-gross-twitter-surprise/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/18/ubermedia-bill-gross-twitte...
  - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
    At the very least, UberMedia knew that Twitter frowns upon the use of the terms 'twitter' and 'tweet' in the name of a 3rd party app, as those are trademarks owned by Twitter. But of course UberMedia had to act surprised, what other explanation could they have offered their users? Like with anyone caught cheating, the predictable response is "Really, this isn't what it looks like!".
    - tedroden 16y ago
      "Twitter" sure, but if they discourage tweet, it's a new thing. You used to be encouraged to use tweet in your app name instead of twitter. Remember, they didn't officially call them "tweets" until recently(ish). You can even register twitter names with "tweet" in them, not "twitter."
      - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
        From Twitter's Help Center [1]: You may: * Name your website, product, or application with something unique. Uses of Tw-, and Twit- are generally okay with us. * Feel free to include language on your site explaining that your application is built on the Twitter platform so people understand your product. * Use Tweet in the name of your application only if it is designed to be used exclusively with the Twitter platform. You may not: * Use Twitter in the name of your website or application. * Use just "Tweet" or "Tweet" with a simple letter or number combination (for example, 1Tweet, Tweet, Tweets). * Register a domain containing twitter (or misspellings of twitter). * Apply for a trademark with a name including Twitter or Tweet (or similar variations thereof). * Use Tweet in the name of your application if used with any other platform. So the use of 'tweet' in an app name is allowed, if the app is a pure twitter client (not an app that integrates multiple social networks). You also have to agree not to trademark the name, if that name contains the word 'tweet'. [1] http://support.twitter.com/articles/77641 http://support.twitter.com/articles/77641
    - abraham 16y ago
      As far as I know Twitter only discourages the use of Tweet in application names if you integrate with no applications other then Twitter like Facebook, Buzz, Foursqure, etc.
c2 16y ago
2010 was the year to invest in platforms. 2011 is the year to invest elsewhere. So long Facebook, Twitter, Apple - I no longer trust your platforms enough to put any significant resources into development. It's time to end the walled garden resurgence and the best way to do that is on the ground floor.
- rimantas 16y ago
  More like 2011 is a year of over-generalizations. Good luck trying to find anything you can trust anyway.
  - c2 16y ago
    I didn't mean it to be a broad generalization. Each platform has it's own problems, this is just the latest in another reminder that each of these can shut your business down with the flick of a switch or if they catch wind of competition they don't feel is right for their particular walled garden. I trust myself to deliver products my customers want and find useful. That's enough for me.
    - darwinGod 16y ago
      With all these platforms (iphone/facebook/twitter),I think the smartest guys are those who do not get much news coverage, make decent money silently without growing too big, and not being too small. When you exist because of benevolent dictator,don't think of pointing a 0.44 magnum and getting lucky if you are just going to get nuked!!!
      - daniel1980fl 16y ago
        "I think the smartest guys are those who do not get much news coverage, make decent money silently without growing too big, and not being too small" no spread news about the site, lots of money, small userbase --- is this even possible??? if yes, please give an example of a working site.
- code_duck 16y ago
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"We haven't changed our policies, we're just enforcing them differently" - the 2011 catchphrase for platform providers

by ajg1977 16y ago

"We haven't changed our policies, we're just enforcing them differently" - the 2011 catchphrase for platform providers

According to Twitter, the measure was taken after months of warnings: "[Twitter] had conversations with UberMedia, the developer of these applications, about policy violations since April 2010" "[S]everal applications, including UberTwitter, twidroyd and UberCurrent, [...] have violated Twitter policies and trademarks in a variety of ways. These violations include, but aren’t limited to, a privacy issue with private Direct Messages longer than 140 characters, trademark infringement, and changing the content of users’ Tweets in order to make money."

abraham 16y ago
UberMedia CEO Bill Gross says these are new issues Twitter never brought up before: “We just talked to Twitter and discussed the various issues they raise. It took us by surprise because they didn’t raise them before." http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/18/ubermedia-bill-gross-twitter-surprise/ http://techcrunch.com/2011/02/18/ubermedia-bill-gross-twitte...
- Samuel_Michon 16y ago
  At the very least, UberMedia knew that Twitter frowns upon the use of the terms 'twitter' and 'tweet' in the name of a 3rd party app, as those are trademarks owned by Twitter. But of course UberMedia had to act surprised, what other explanation could they have offered their users? Like with anyone caught cheating, the predictable response is "Really, this isn't what it looks like!".
  - tedroden 16y ago
    "Twitter" sure, but if they discourage tweet, it's a new thing. You used to be encouraged to use tweet in your app name instead of twitter. Remember, they didn't officially call them "tweets" until recently(ish). You can even register twitter names with "tweet" in them, not "twitter."
    - Samuel_Michon 16y ago
      From Twitter's Help Center [1]: You may: * Name your website, product, or application with something unique. Uses of Tw-, and Twit- are generally okay with us. * Feel free to include language on your site explaining that your application is built on the Twitter platform so people understand your product. * Use Tweet in the name of your application only if it is designed to be used exclusively with the Twitter platform. You may not: * Use Twitter in the name of your website or application. * Use just "Tweet" or "Tweet" with a simple letter or number combination (for example, 1Tweet, Tweet, Tweets). * Register a domain containing twitter (or misspellings of twitter). * Apply for a trademark with a name including Twitter or Tweet (or similar variations thereof). * Use Tweet in the name of your application if used with any other platform. So the use of 'tweet' in an app name is allowed, if the app is a pure twitter client (not an app that integrates multiple social networks). You also have to agree not to trademark the name, if that name contains the word 'tweet'. [1] http://support.twitter.com/articles/77641 http://support.twitter.com/articles/77641
  - abraham 16y ago
    As far as I know Twitter only discourages the use of Tweet in application names if you integrate with no applications other then Twitter like Facebook, Buzz, Foursqure, etc.

c2 16y ago

2010 was the year to invest in platforms. 2011 is the year to invest elsewhere. So long Facebook, Twitter, Apple - I no longer trust your platforms enough to put any significant resources into development. It's time to end the walled garden resurgence and the best way to do that is on the ground floor.

rimantas 16y ago
More like 2011 is a year of over-generalizations. Good luck trying to find anything you can trust anyway.
- c2 16y ago
  I didn't mean it to be a broad generalization. Each platform has it's own problems, this is just the latest in another reminder that each of these can shut your business down with the flick of a switch or if they catch wind of competition they don't feel is right for their particular walled garden. I trust myself to deliver products my customers want and find useful. That's enough for me.
  - darwinGod 16y ago
    With all these platforms (iphone/facebook/twitter),I think the smartest guys are those who do not get much news coverage, make decent money silently without growing too big, and not being too small. When you exist because of benevolent dictator,don't think of pointing a 0.44 magnum and getting lucky if you are just going to get nuked!!!
    - daniel1980fl 16y ago
      "I think the smartest guys are those who do not get much news coverage, make decent money silently without growing too big, and not being too small" no spread news about the site, lots of money, small userbase --- is this even possible??? if yes, please give an example of a working site.
code_duck 16y ago

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