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You say it like it's a bad thing? It's possible to be both professional and have some fun (not talking about the linked GH).

vsareto 7y ago
It should get quarantined into a different channel or server. If not, and you don't like a bunch of shitty meme spam, it's difficult to filter out while keeping your coworkers unblocked.
scoutt 7y ago
I think it's fine to joke, but even if I try, I really have to make an effort to not get angry when someone at work or an external replies with something written like this: "yeah, u know, i could do it better, lol". Edit: to add that I agree with the idea there is a problem with people making a distinction between work and play contexts.
hans1729 7y ago
Having fun is not whats discouraged. Rather: if I'm looking for the solution for some problem, I don't want to scroll through memes, because I want to be productive, getting things done. Spam/fog in the resolution-thread obviously doesn't help with that; the opposite is the case.
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- mikehollinger 7y ago
  Basic moderation in some form would be useful there. It’s interesting - there’s not (that I’ve seen anyway) a tremendous amount of spam or for the most part off topic conversations in in github issues. I’ve seen phishing attempts (I think) that seem to be “hey just go download and run curl ____.sh | bash” and you’ll be good to go occasionally but that sort of banter isn’t typical (at least in the circles I run in).
easytiger 7y ago
I mean there is a difference between having fun and conducting yourself in a professional manner where appropriate. With the increase in adoption of certain technologies (node etc) I have noticed a relationship with the people employed to work with them and their poor level of professionalism in the workplace with regard to their work and how they deal with other people (in the UK) and even how they dress. Similar age groups in other areas don't display these traits. A number of these people work as contractors as well, so at least it was easy to get rid of them. Go post memes on the LKML and see what happens
- matsemann 7y ago
  I'm not saying I want memes everywhere, but since I'm spending 1/3 of my life at work I'd rather it be a good time. > Go post memes on the LKML and see what happens I think the seriousness (almost angry tone) in certain communities also is a disservice to attract new members. If I make my first PR in some project, it's easy too feel attacked when the reply is a negative one, albeit strictly professional. If it however has a more light-hearted tone and a bit more sandwiched fun-serious-fun one feels more welcome.
  - pdimitar 7y ago
    Contrasting an opinion you don't like with the other extreme is usually called a strawman and is not a good way to argue. As others have said, I too am not against a light-hearted tone. But when you have a legitimate problem that might be blocking you from doing your work and your only source of information is a GitHub issue then it should go without saying that the information should be dense and compressed and it should absolutely lack memes, yes.
  - seabird 7y ago
    The serious tone is a huge draw to the LKML and that way of working. They really do care about not having left-pad type meltdowns. They really do care about being able to find information easily, even years after the fact. There's a big difference between shooting the shit in your private communications and cluttering up places where people are looking for solutions.
lidHanteyk 7y ago
The problem, specifically, is that folks use humor to mask the fact that they don't know or understand what's going on.
- kingludite 7y ago
  Do the jokes count towards the 10X ?

vsareto 7y ago

It should get quarantined into a different channel or server. If not, and you don't like a bunch of shitty meme spam, it's difficult to filter out while keeping your coworkers unblocked.

scoutt 7y ago

I think it's fine to joke, but even if I try, I really have to make an effort to not get angry when someone at work or an external replies with something written like this: "yeah, u know, i could do it better, lol". Edit: to add that I agree with the idea there is a problem with people making a distinction between work and play contexts.

hans1729 7y ago

Having fun is not whats discouraged. Rather: if I'm looking for the solution for some problem, I don't want to scroll through memes, because I want to be productive, getting things done. Spam/fog in the resolution-thread obviously doesn't help with that; the opposite is the case.

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mikehollinger 7y ago
Basic moderation in some form would be useful there. It’s interesting - there’s not (that I’ve seen anyway) a tremendous amount of spam or for the most part off topic conversations in in github issues. I’ve seen phishing attempts (I think) that seem to be “hey just go download and run curl ____.sh | bash” and you’ll be good to go occasionally but that sort of banter isn’t typical (at least in the circles I run in).

easytiger 7y ago

I mean there is a difference between having fun and conducting yourself in a professional manner where appropriate. With the increase in adoption of certain technologies (node etc) I have noticed a relationship with the people employed to work with them and their poor level of professionalism in the workplace with regard to their work and how they deal with other people (in the UK) and even how they dress. Similar age groups in other areas don't display these traits. A number of these people work as contractors as well, so at least it was easy to get rid of them. Go post memes on the LKML and see what happens

matsemann 7y ago
I'm not saying I want memes everywhere, but since I'm spending 1/3 of my life at work I'd rather it be a good time. > Go post memes on the LKML and see what happens I think the seriousness (almost angry tone) in certain communities also is a disservice to attract new members. If I make my first PR in some project, it's easy too feel attacked when the reply is a negative one, albeit strictly professional. If it however has a more light-hearted tone and a bit more sandwiched fun-serious-fun one feels more welcome.
- pdimitar 7y ago
  Contrasting an opinion you don't like with the other extreme is usually called a strawman and is not a good way to argue. As others have said, I too am not against a light-hearted tone. But when you have a legitimate problem that might be blocking you from doing your work and your only source of information is a GitHub issue then it should go without saying that the information should be dense and compressed and it should absolutely lack memes, yes.
- seabird 7y ago
  The serious tone is a huge draw to the LKML and that way of working. They really do care about not having left-pad type meltdowns. They really do care about being able to find information easily, even years after the fact. There's a big difference between shooting the shit in your private communications and cluttering up places where people are looking for solutions.

lidHanteyk 7y ago

The problem, specifically, is that folks use humor to mask the fact that they don't know or understand what's going on.

kingludite 7y ago
Do the jokes count towards the 10X ?