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A man who styles himself an internet visionary while abdicating his responsibility to the future of the internet is likely to have an ulterior motive when talki
by hitekker 7y ago
A man who styles himself an internet visionary while abdicating his responsibility to the future of the internet is likely to have an ulterior motive when talking about the internet.
However I also recognize that our community, like other communities, tend to forgive high status community members, as long as their lies aren’t too obvious.
- ggm 7y agoWell done for simultaneous criticism of him and me. This feels like "if you are not against him, you must be for him" reductionism. I merely note he is capable of being seen, like all of us, as multithreaded.
- hitekker 7y agoThat criticism wasn’t against you; I was actually thinking about how the community handled Hans Reiser 10 years ago. If you feel personally attacked, though, then that might warrant some introspection.
- Dylan16807 7y agoIf he was being unreasonably well-treated, why did ReiserFS for the most part get dropped like a hot coal just for being associated with him?
- ggm 7y agoI think you inverted the logic. His case is "Hans Reiser was an outsider, but when he turned out to be a killer (which does not strictly relate to his FS work) we dropped him like a hot potato. Contrast that with Mike Godwin, who did a thing (the respondand thinks is) reprehensible, but because he is a big name, we give him leeway" he's making a compare-and-contrast argument, as I understood it. The difference is, Hans Reiser was a murderer. Mike Godwin is just conflicted between his belief in a greater good outcome and his role as a PIR/ISOC conflicted person. I think its a bit apples-and-fishcakes as comparisons go, but I sort of get it.
- Dylan16807 7y ago"our community[...]tend to forgive" "I was actually thinking about how the community handled Hans Reiser" That sure looks like an example to me, not a contrast. But maybe you're right.