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Burnoutindex.org
- notJim 7y agoI immediately went to do this quiz, but then I couldn't help but wonder if this might be one of those Cambridge Analytica style "quizzes" where they're harvesting psychological data for unknown purposes. I'm not sure if this makes me sound savvy or insane.
- themodelplumber 7y agoTaking your comment into consideration, it seems like the quiz format could potentially shut out some of those it rather intends to help--its core audience even...how sad would that be. Imagine those who would elevate your reality-grounded concern (incorporating the current privacy culture context as it does) to the paranoia level, many of whom would do so simply because stress has so affected their judgment process. I know folks who work in tech for whom this would be a very quick and biting "no" due to such paranoia. But many of these same people urgently need to set boundaries and address destructive issues with their self-criticism circuits. They are burnt out.
- Freak_NL 7y agoNo personal information is asked, so the dataset will be pretty useless for monetization (you could just computationally generate a couple of thousand of responses and pretend it was the real deal). uBlock Origin blocked one weird tracker-like third-party I didn't recognize: fullstory.com. The rest were the usual Google analytics crap.
- warp 7y agofullstory records your entire session, which can be really useful for developers and UX folks to investigate bugs or better understand how people are using your site. It's also super creepy.
- Freak_NL 7y agoEw. Good thing uBlock Origin blocks it then.
- lucb1e 7y agoAnd here I was wondering if I should start Tor, as I usually do when doing anything health or politics related, but thought I was maybe being paranoid for something upvoted on HN...
- nitrogen 7y agoUI session recording services are incredibly common across all kinds of services. Inspectlet, Glassbox are two others I am aware of, but there are no doubt more. They also probably exist for mobile apps.
- marcossponton 7y agoMarcos here, one of the members of the team behind this. Fullstory is to understand this project as a product and to see where it needs to be improved (because users don't understand or try to do things that we didn't considered, etc.). Only personal data (mail) is asked for those interested to stay in the loop in some way. The dataset without those emails will be on Github soon :)
- Freak_NL 7y agoWhy not just add a link add the end or in a footer where users can submit suggestions and report bugs? When you are engaging users in mental health related questions, any tracking is suspect and creepy.
- Old_Thrashbarg 7y agoIn my experience, users don't report minor UX flaws. These kind of recording services can show, for example, users rage clicking what looks like a button for a couple seconds before finding the real button. For startups that don't have the resources to line up tons of user testing sessions where you watch the product being used, these can help make a less frustrating experience for users.
- coleca 7y agoWhy ask the company name if the intent is to be anonymous? Many companies just the role name and company name is enough to identify the individual. Maybe there is only one CTO or Cloud Architect, etc. Or maybe gender + role + company is enough to identify.
- thrower123 7y agoIt's simple enough to enter in "Noneya Business, Inc" for the company field.
- macu 7y agoI finished the survey and clicked "get my personal results" - email is required to receive the results, but you can "Join" without providing an email.
- sp332 7y agoThey could use your IP address or some tracking cookies to link this data to a bunch of other data. Potentially.
- harshvladha 7y ago- use incognito to avoid trackers - use proxy / vpn - resize your window if you are still scared
- patneedham 7y agoWhat effect does resizing your window have?
- harshvladha 7y agoa little help to bypass tracking by fingerprinting
- rzzzt 7y agoDoesn't it make things even more unique? How many people have a 1347×712 px window open?
- harshvladha 7y agoNo, if u keep changing frequently!
- nitrogen 7y ago"Has a non-standard window size" still really narrows the search space, and there's still your desktop resolution that might be super unique if you have a laptop and a desk monitor at an offset.
- eeZah7Ux 7y agoNo. Use the Tor Browser. The manual hacks do very little.
- IHLayman 7y agoI caught that too. Good thing the test still worked with the trackers blocked.
- eeZah7Ux 7y agoThe IP address (therefore city and country) and browser data already says a lot.
- adtac 7y agoAt this point, it's just 0.0.0.0/0 and Chrome
- lightswitch05 7y agoAh, I took this quiz on my iPhone, luckily my pihole caught the trackers. I have a pretty extensive hosts list I use with the PiHole (full story included): https://www.github.developerdan.com/hosts/ https://www.github.developerdan.com/hosts/
- jdkee 7y agoPerhaps tech workers should unionize and demand better healthcare, 40 hour work weeks, etc.
- blahyawnblah 7y agoMy healthcare is 100% paid for and my work week is 40 hours 99% of the time.
- muchosandwich 7y agoMy work week is also 40 hours 99% of the time, including the community volunteering my work encourages me to do. I've never missed a milestone because they aren't crazy short and I'm allowed to push back during planning if they are. I think more companies should be like mine. Somehow I still got a 1.4/6 on this survey and my risk "HIGH"
- dmos62 7y agoWhat, and, like, have actual political power? Red scare!
- derision 7y agoI've never had an issue with any of those things. Maybe people should move away from the valley into the rest of the country where the jobs are more humane
- skrebbel 7y agoI love the illustration
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- runawaybottle 7y agoI agree burnout is real, but I have never run into a someone working that doesn’t make a fuss about how ‘busy’ they are. I feel the results are going to be ‘yep, everyone is burnt out’.
- huebomont 7y agoI'm not busy, and still burnt out. Not having enough of value to do can also burn you out.
- tempsy 7y agoI don't think burnout is really about overwork so much as spending even 40 hours a week doing something that is contrary to your own personal values. I suspect a lot of people work on things (ads, selling more crap, getting people in more debt, etc.) that they ultimately don't think really matter or are a net benefit to society.
- acrefoot 7y agoI think it's possible to burn out working on things you think are important but that are chronically underfunded or ignored. For example, I can imagine working on cleantech or green NGOs only to be consistently frustrated that people don't want to pay for better recycling and cleaner energy, or want to reduce their water usage.
- jamil7 7y agoI've worked on and around volunteer and open source projects for social and environmental causes and burn out is an issue there too. Often for some of the reasons you mention, other factors are also lack of resources and an inhibility to come to quick decisions and move a project forward, it can feel like you're going nowhere and having the same conversations over and over.
- dnate 7y agoAlso, that theory does not work with the fact, that a lot of burnout victims are social workers.
- adrianmonk 7y agoExactly. Burnout can happen because you have a cynical malaise about your mission. But it can also happen because you are so passionate about your mission that where a normal person would understand reasonable boundaries between work and life, you can't resist the temptation to push right past them. (Which violates the principle of taking care of yourself first, so that you can take care of others.) Sorry to bring up religion in polite conversation, but an interesting theory I've heard about church pastors is that sometimes they have extramarital affairs (partly) for an unusual reason. They feel called to do their type of work, but it's all-consuming, so they end up feeling conflicted. Part of them wants to quit, but another part cannot justify it. So instead of quitting, they do something which might or might not get them fired. It's a moral failing, but less of a moral failing than abandoning your mission. (Ultimately, it's just a way to not take responsibility for your choices, but that's human beings for you.)
- cagenut 7y agoI have a working theory that basically all "devops engineer" jobs of the last 5ish years are more or less automatic/happens-by-default burnout traps. Hard to tell how much is that and how much is just we're all sliding into middle age, but man I have yet to see one that wasn't a steadily ratcheting wrench of pressure to keep all the old things running while doing the next new thing every month.
- pbrb 7y agoNot to mention the ever increasing stack of tools and tech you need to keep up with.
- jlv2 7y agoMy burnout index is 5/6. No surprise there. I'm more interested in why the site reloads the top portion of the page after the initial load. You can tell, because the top image changes from the person sitting on the left side of the table a flipped one where they are on the right side of the table. left https://images.ctfassets.net/z2g90m75le4q/5yT1ytvHM0WLTih13YsNM1/2449104553299970807b77a505a77f52/Captura_de_Pantalla_2020-01-29_a_la_s__15.40.40.png https://images.ctfassets.net/z2g90m75le4q/5yT1ytvHM0WLTih13Y... right https://images.ctfassets.net/z2g90m75le4q/7kam7578mAMnVlgQTPllI4/01e25beb926aa989c3f1fc2946743ff4/Captura_de_Pantalla_2020-01-29_a_la_s__15.40.40.png https://images.ctfassets.net/z2g90m75le4q/7kam7578mAMnVlgQTP...
- llsf 7y agohear you... got 5/6 and was thinking about improving the number of clicks on that questionnaire. Sigh... How did I get there?
- rezeroed 7y agoGood site. This frog is boiled. I'll be returning periodically.
- schwinn140 7y agoThis is great. Any interest in expanding the Roles available in the drop-down menu to be more inclusive of other Roles within a tech company. Speaking for myself, a tech industry Marketer, I'm pretty damn burnt out! Thanks for creating a tool to help us visualize and keep reference of where we're mentally at. It might be a cool feature to have the ability to save your report and trigger repeat measurements over time. With that data, you could then 'map' the mindspace of the user and how they are hopefully working towards triggers and burnout.
- throwawayhhakdl 7y agoI like this conceptually, but I don’t think I trust it to be... a reliable opinion. I got 1.5 / 6. Apparently this means I’m at HIGH risk, which strikes me as pretty stupid. What are other people getting? (I am comfortable and pretty darn sure I’m not burnt out at all, answering several of these as “Never”)
- harshvladha 7y agoI got 0.5/6 and still it says "Your burnout risk is HIGH" I feel, it was because of little high Self-inefficacy. I experimented with different answers, once I got 0.6/6 and it said: "Your burnout risk is MID", but for that Self-inefficacy was LOW. It seems like Self-inefficacy has been taken as a high factor for Burnout.
- eanzenberg 7y agoThe quiz is at best propaganda and at worst psychologically damaging. Besides, you can't laugh at the optics of 1%ers whining about how hard their insanely profitable jobs are.
- adrianmonk 7y agoOptics are real, of course, but burnout isn't necessarily whining. It can be seen as a kind of "business risk" for your career. Ignore it or otherwise fail to manage it, and you can end up stagnating instead of advancing, souring your relationship with your employer, or letting the situation build to a crisis where you must have relief and decide to chuck it all and mow lawns for a living instead. Also, every person needs to understand their own balance between the value they place on dumptrucks full of cash and sacrifices made for work. At some point the additional $50K in salary isn't worth it, or maybe it is. Or maybe $50K less in salary is a good trade-off.
- bfung 7y agoI also ran the quiz several times and can reproduce your results. Science! I’m going to say the quiz is overtuned.
- pizza234 7y agoA bit (quite a lot) simplistic (but personally, I appreciate the idea). In order to get a "low" index in each parameter, one needs to always set the best possible scenario, which is not realistic. Even in the best possible scenario _in real world_, one could be less than sympathetic with somebody else once a month. That doesn't mean they're at "mid" level of a burnout parameter. And not reaching the productivity potential at times is normal (and cyclical). Again, not a burnout parameter. I see "Based on scientific questionnaires created by psychology professionals", but I doubt it's professionally assembled.
- eanzenberg 7y agoThe quiz is at best propaganda and at worst psychologically damaging. Besides, you can't laugh at the optics of 1%ers whining about how hard their insanely profitable jobs are.
- whalesalad 7y agoMy mind immediately went to the other kind of burnout where you shave a few 32nds off your tires. Might need to do a few of those because I scored a 5.6.
- sz4kerto 7y agoBe really careful with these surveys. The problems of these, among other things: - mixing up burnout risk with burnout - mixing up burnout with physical or mental fatigue - not serving any purpose (i.e. not providing good directions) Burnout is primarily a negative change in perception, and it's a spectrum, obviously. You get burned out when your perception of the same situation gets progressively worse. This can be caused by various factors -- exhaustion, doing stuff that doesn't match your values, etc. It can also be prevented in various ways; i.e. you can do very exhausting work and not get burned out. A really simplistic, but fun/useful way of detecting burnout (not the risk): if you regularly think that you and your team/company/environment work hard, but your customers/broader company/other teams are stupid/not intelligent/not constructive, then that's the first phase ('us vs them'). This can progress to the next phase, where it's more like 'me vs them', so you despise most of your environment. This is when people tend to leave. The last step is apathy, people rarely end here. It's not really possible to move backwards on this scale without changing roles/work/colleagues.
- rpastuszak 7y agoThis resonates with me a lot, but are these just your own observations or conclusions supported by directly research? (if so, any chance you could share the sources?)
- tpjoynt 7y agoThe book "Tribal Leadership" summarizes that scale nicely.
- ghostbrainalpha 7y agoWait.... "apathy" is rare? I thought that is the step where most of us have been hanging out. I have been waiting for the "real burnout" to kick in when I dropped another level or two.
- sz4kerto 7y agoApathy is comparatively rare, yes. (Sorry for the HN crowd for not getting into the data here, not enough time right now.) That's because the previous level is usually so painful that people end up changing something. Especially in engineering the market is so much better than in practically any other field that people who don't move out from the previous phase ('I hate everyone around me') mostly do this because they have something else going on in their lives. This, however (other things going on) is something that _prevents_ further burnout, because one of the best burnout prevention method is _purpose_. Example: working in a call center is mostly extremely stressful. Having a purpose like 'I do this to so that I am able to finish my degree' is an useful thing to prevent burnout. Working hard like hell on a startup for 6 months with a clear purpose usually doesn't cause a burnout (can cause other problems tho'). People who end up in the 'apathy' phase usually do so because they somehow lacked the purpose, the means of changing their situation and also the realization that things are going very badly. If you think that you're in the apathetic phase then you're likely not, because you still have some self-reflection.
- wcunning 7y agoI got a 2.1/6, which is less than 50%. Apparently this is a "high" risk of burnout... Why not replace it with a button that says "Do you work in tech?" Yes -> High Risk of Burnout, since that's the vibe they're going with.
- hinoki 7y agoI got 0.6 / 6, and it said the same. Is it possible to not be at high risk of burnout according to this survey?
- almost_usual 7y agoI got a ‘mid risk’ at 1.3. All of my ratings were low except ‘exhaustion’ which was a mid.
- fattire 7y agoAs a test, I answered 0 for most choices. 1 for like two or so. Result: .6 of 6, "high" burnout risk.
- MrZander 7y agoThis thing is trash. I put "never" on everything and then "a few times a year" on one and I was still "mid" risk at 0.3/6. Putting "once a month or less" on one thing made it "high" at 0.5/6 So basically 0.0 = LOW, 0.1 - 0.3 = MID, 0.3 - 6.0 = HIGH Basically everyone who isn't in their dream job is at high risk of burnout. Pointless quiz.
- tubbs 7y agoI was surprised when my 1/6 gave me high risk. I am very thankful for what I do and I enjoy going to work. If you answer "None" to everything, your burnout risk is low (0/6). Answering a single question with 1 (A few times a year or less) puts you at .1/6 (Mid), which goes up to .5/6. I find the results reporting of this to be rather sensationalist and the whole thing pretty useless. If you're burnt out, you probably don't need an online quiz to tell you.
- janee 7y agoI'm a sucker for questionnaires, but this just seemed to simplistic. I'd say you might as well replace the questions with a single "how burnt out do you feel" input. Would love to see how different industries compare on some of these scores.
- unixhero 7y agoWorks fine for me. Great little tool this.
- swalsh 7y agoI burnt out several years ago, I was way past the point of return before I realized. I ended up changing jobs, and took a few vacations... even then recovery was slow. After that I returned pretty strong. Since then there have been a few times I recognized it happening again, but being cognizant of the signs goes a long ways towards preventing it.
- doublerabbit 7y agoSame thing. I've never held a job longer then two years. Not because of incapable of the work but because I get so burnt I shoot myself in a foot and end up "dismissed" "fired" "redundant". I've been off work for three months now with little-to no money and it's the past three months I've only just started feeling myself again. I start work /again/ next week and I know the novelty of the new job will tick well, but when that wears off.. I will start to burn out again. It's not stress, I can handle that fine. Its just so stale and no freedom. I want to run another operating system other than "CentOS". Screw it, lets run OpenBSD for routing instead of $$$ DellForce9 where you have to pay $$$ to enable additional switch ports. But no, it's all got to be kept enterprise. I'm just bored of it as a whole.
- IpV8 7y agoI'm with you man. Never held a job for more than a year or so. Though for me it is because I quit once I feel myself losing interest. Nothing gives a jolt to my apathy quite like quitting with nothing else lined up. This will prove harder once my Son is born though...
- swalsh 7y agoI might have been more clear, when I recognize myself burning out now I dont quit my job. That's an extreme measure for extreme situations. Instead I recognize what is causing my burnout, and I try to address it. My last bout was a struggle with balancing a new baby. I talked to my boss, Nd we worked out a deal of loosening my workload. About a year later I was able to pick up more. As for your frustration in lack of agency. It takes time to build a reputation worth trusting. I'd reccomend changing how you approach work. Think about what your bosses goals are, what the companies goals are. If you can find ways to add value, you can earn greater trust, and more agency.
- ARandomerDude 7y agoMeh. So much of these end up being self-fulfilling prophesies. Instead of telling someone they're at high risk for burnout, we should tell people to be reasonable with their work/life balance. Burnout is as much an employee problem as an employer problem. We all need to put our big boy pants on and take some responsibility for our actions and the consequences of those actions. Disclaimer: I don't supervise anyone.
- vanusa 7y agoMassive, built-in selection bias. People who have time for (or need the distraction of) surveys like these tend to be, of course... the already burnt out.
- CrankyBear 7y agoI don't buy it. With a very low score--hey I like what I'm doing--I'm still at a high-risk of burnout. I Don't Think So.
- maxk42 7y agoThis seems to rank nearly everyone as burned-out. Reeks of agenda.
- adrianmonk 7y agoAnd/or (cynical view), our industry in such a state that nearly everyone IS burned out.
- maxk42 7y agoNo, I mean it literally ranks nearly everyone as burned out. As an experiment I chose the second-to-lowest burnout score for every question but one (for which I chose the lowest score). My risk of burnout was rated as high. That's ridiculous for answers that by any objective measure would be great.
- SkyBelow 7y agoIt would be possible with some questions that the answer between 0 to 1 is more meaningful than the answer between 1 and 10. For example, "How many tires have you slashed?" 0 to 1 is much more of a jump than 1 to 10. If this was being used to rank some underlying characteristic, 0 would be low while 1-10 would be high. Now, does that apply to these questions? I don't think so. Theoretically I can see valid cases where answering anything above 0 goes straight from low to high.
- adrianmonk 7y ago> I mean it literally ranks nearly everyone as burned out. Yes, got that. My point is, it's exactly what you would expect IF nearly everyone ACTUALLY IS burned out. Not that I'm seriously saying they are, just pointing out that you are making that assumption, mainly as a way of saying maybe software is a profession with a relatively high burnout rate.
- bagacrap 7y agoWhen I joined the tech industry in my early 20s and for years after, I noticed that many in their 30s or older seemed burned out. It didn't make much sense to me, because to become a tech worker takes drive and ambition and how would you just lose that one day? Now, 12 years on I can definitely see how burnout is so prevalent. It's like living in the desert and hearing about people drowning. You'd ask yourself, "how is that even possible?" But now I feel as if I've moved to the beach, and can easily see the waves and how it's a real problem. I don't think I'm burned out, but I'm conscious enough of the possibility to keep an eye on the tide.
- wjp3 7y agoSame here, and your analogy was great. Also, thanks for the laugh re: your username.
- themodelplumber 7y agoThe drive and ambition have a funny tech-related spin to them, too. Emotional or relational problems are cast in technical terms as if the solution is to file a bug report on one's own software, even in cases where it makes most sense just to get together and push back on the project / boss / client. Plus you can only hear about e.g. responsiveness concerns like latency so much from the same team / project before you realize: The people themselves are attempting to work more like, and to become more like, machines. They are also thinking about "my latency" as a way of becoming as responsive as possible. If that's true of the group, you're lucky if the burnout isn't already so well entrenched as to be celebrated.
- monktastic1 7y agoFor me it's a bit similar to how I felt as a kid playing with legos. Who wouldn't want to play with legos many hours a day, most days every week? It never occurred to me that there'd come a point where I wanted to know that my work genuinely improved lives. It turns out that being good at something and getting paid for it isn't always enough. It's hard to avoid the question of meaning forever.
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- samatman 7y agoThis is useless, unfortunately. I answered it honestly; I'm someone with a low-agreeableness personality, and some health problems (which have been improving, but nonetheless) which leave me pretty drained of energy at the end of the day. This test doesn't even try to account for those things, and offers me a high risk of burnout despite low-to-perfect scores for everything else.
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- monksy 7y agoThere should be an option for "fuck, I'm far past on being worried about this." (I.e.: the option of do you worry about your emotional state)
- gowld 7y ago8 question survey (followed by a summary that explains the questions, but if you use browser navigation buttons it's irrevocably lost). 1. I find it difficult to relax after a day of work 2. After a day of work, I feel run-down and drained of physical or emotional energy 3. I feel less and less connected and engaged with the work I do. 4. I do not have a clear idea of the value and purpose of my job 5. I am harder and less sympathetic with people than perhaps they deserve 6. I am worried this job is making me harsher emotionally 7. I feel that I am achieving less than I should 8. I feel that I do not have time to do many of the things that are important for doing a good quality job
- Waterluvian 7y agoMaybe I'm not burning out. Maybe I'm just tired and intellectually drained after 8 hours of intellectual stimulation. And maybe that's totally normal.
- cbanek 7y agoWith my luck, I found a bug. If you press one button for an answer, then press another one, I find that the button is not selected, but the length of the button is shortened. It's strange. After clicking again it seems fine. Other than that, cynicism checks out on the results. 5.1.
- pinopinopino 7y agoI am never sure about what a burnout really is. It is not in the DSM yet, but that doesn't really say anything. It shares a lot of properties with depression. Weird stuff. Test is bogus of course. With nine questiI got a high risk, because I scored a bit high on cynicism. But hey, I work in the advertisement business. I am not kidding myself that I add any value to this world at all.
- teddyh 7y agoI am reminded of the “Free Personality Test”s which inevitably shows you have some grave personal problems which can only be helped by Scientology (and certainly not by those evil, evil psychologists).
- richardlblair 7y agoThis misses so many nuances it's not even funny. I'm mentally and physically exhausted, yes. However, I'm exceptionally happy. I enjoy what I do. I want to do it all day long. We're working on something I think is useful, I think people need it, and I want them to have it sooner rather than later. This might mean I burn out and need a weeks rest come like... June, but fuck, I'm running straight towards that and I'm so happy I don't care.
- brailsafe 7y agoA few weeks rest!? You certainly might need that, but it ain't burnout—and yes I'll gatekeep it, because burnout is a different degree. I genuinely hope it doesn't happen for you, and getting out while you're happy is probably a great way to mitigate, but it's risky. One of the things about burnout that is so deceiving, is that combination of feeling great about it and sacrificing so much personally or investing too much personally, then you get hit hard when your expectations stop aligning. Could be anything, like you thought based on your work that you were way more valued, then someone new comes in and fires you or changes direction and all of a sudden the last two years are tossed in the garbage. That 3 weeks you would have spent relaxing turns into 2 years spent figuring out wth you were thinking and what to do next.
- brailsafe 7y agoI feel like one of the worst things you can do when you burnout or are on the way to burning out, is to get a new job. Imo, swapping in stuff where stuff wasn't good before is just a way to divert your attention in a way that doesn't let you redevelop your value system in a way that you really need to. Just stop for a while. Maybe a long while. Then see what you want to do.
- redisman 7y agoSome workplaces are really bad though. I've had one that was complete insanity with bosses yelling etc. Better to get out sometimes.
- brailsafe 7y agoAbsolutely agreed, but I think this is more of a specific case where the environment is totally toxic, rather than your personal mental health maintenance. As in, because you can absolutely burnout at even the best organizations, it's indicative of other stuff. If the workplace is shit, get out. Whether you move immediately into another position or not depends on whether you're burning/burnt out. If you are, then you gotta give yourself more time not working generally.
- jophde 7y agoMostly just getting tired of not having a quiet place to work and needing to grind leetcode so that I don't have to worry about being un-hirerable in my free time. Besides that I generally like being an SWE. I'm also pretty tired of private companies wanting me to value stock options equally to dollars.
- annoyingnoob 7y agoI think burnout happens when you cannot see the light at the end of the tunnel, when every week is darker than the last. My last job offered unlimited vacation. But if I ever took any vacation I'd get a message from my boss the night before I got back with a laundry list of the things that need attention ASAP - I couldn't really finish relaxing before I was vacuumed back into the soul sucking darkness.
- chrshawkes 7y agoI feel this industry is burned out due to the fact that the magic doesn't feel like it's there anymore. If we want a salary we're forced to sign NDA's & NCA's and forego all our personal ambitions to the company. We have endless pointless tooling for basic shit like writing CRUD apps. Need to make a web app? Install Node to use NPM to install a million and a half packages to write a Hello World example. It's cool though, this project was made by so and so, even though the creators themselves aren't using it in production. God forbid you're writing an SPA, that will be 2 million dependencies. So many noob's entering the work force every day trying to be the next Mark Zuckerberg, constantly cheer-leading the latest worthless framework which is built upon the same old logic used for the past 40 years. Managers and tech leads suffering from blogitis reading some dumb ass opinion on why he chose React etc.. and pushing the entire team and company in that direction. As far as I can tell, our webapps are still a broken pile of patches just the same as they we're 10 years ago. Only this time around, they're much more difficult to write and maintain. On top of that we have endless meetings all day, arbitrary 1 - 5 ranking systems, biased promotions and endless arbitrary deadlines. Not to worry though, Agile and all it's pointless complexities to the rescue. Finally, we have smug spoiled people all over this industry talking down to us about the tech we use and how much smarter they are because they hit the jackpot due to mommy and daddy's connections etc... It's not the wild west anymore and tech isn't nearly as fun or as competitive for the individual. It's just a choice between the corporate grind or starving startup hipster.
- sint762 7y agowhat a dumb survey
- geoffbp 7y agoMy wife has helped me to put things in place to prevent burnout, mostly little things outside of work
- redisman 7y agoHonest question, is someone not mentally drained after programming(or just working) all day? That has been my experience for my 10+ year career every single day. Am I doing it wrong?
- default-kramer 7y agoIt depends where you work. Some places have very low expectations for their programmers. I have heard of places with very high expectations, but I've never worked at one yet. I've never felt mentally drained, but on occasion I have felt "keyed up" and I can't stop thinking about an interesting problem even when I go home. That is definitely less than 20% of the days in my 10+ year career though.
- bradlys 7y agoMy mental drainage is tied almost completely to how much I enjoy the work and/or work environment. If the work sucks - I come home hating my job, hating my life, and wanting a new job. Therefore - I am much more drained. If the work is relatively interesting or am just not upset with it - then I come home feeling energized or fine. (Rare these days - I really hate my job and want a new one) This is why I find getting a new job to be extremely difficult. The more I hate my job - the more I need to interview and do technical interview prep to get out... Which needs to be done at home after work. But the more I hate my job - the more drained I am - thus, the less I am able to do those things. It ends up keeping you in the same shitty job for way longer than you want. It's almost like they thought about this...
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- cryptozeus 7y agoThis is total scam covered with nice UI. All the results indicate burn out is high if you select tech industry. Do not take the survey.
- finnthehuman 7y agoI wonder what happens with the data collected by this website. I’m afraid to let them know anything about my mental well-being.