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Wish they’d review on Linux. Windows does not seem like the target audience given all the limitations.
by tbenst 7y ago
Wish they’d review on Linux. Windows does not seem like the target audience given all the limitations.
- nattmat 7y agohttps://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=3990x-threadripper-linux&num=1 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=3990x-th...
- btmorex 7y agoI agree. An even bigger problem is that most of the benchmark suite is completely irrelevant to what these CPU's are going to be used for. These are meant for servers. They should keep that in mind when selecting what benchmarks and which operating system to use.
- atq2119 7y agoThe Threadripper CPUs are meant for workstations / high-end desktops (HEDT), not servers. For servers, you'd want the EPYC line. The benchmark selection is somewhat reasonable, though yes, you'd want some Linux tests in there.
- thedance 7y agoYou just answered the question. It would be interesting to see TR and EPYC head-to-head in server workloads, to confirm or deny the theory that EPYC is better for them.
- washadjeffmad 7y agoWhile some platforms are certainly designed with long term always-on use in mind, "meant to" isn't quite right. We mostly operate sTR4s as HEDTs, but we also have X399 server boards with IPMI and 10GbE in a board configuration designed to be installed racked. To us, there's only a minor functional difference in role.
- zone411 7y agoServers can often use more than 256 GB RAM and 4 memory channels, like the EPYC line these are based on. I'd like to see it benchmarked as a workstation for local builds (both Windows and Linux) and for accessing and processing in parallel 100 GB+ data in RAM (for quicker prototyping than GPUs, or verification). Those would be my main uses.
- rbanffy 7y agoWhat benchmarks do you think would be relevant? This seems like a part that's designed for AV production, 3D and SFX work. It could be used in a server-like role, but, for 500 more, the EPYC counterpart is a much better deal.
- TsiCClawOfLight 7y agoI think compiling, data processing and similar workloads are more relevant here. For the tasks you mention, the GPU would seem more important.
- rbanffy 7y agoI thought so, but a couple days back someone pointed me to this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38029698/why-do-we-use-cpus-for-ray-tracing-instead-of-gpus https://stackoverflow.com/questions/38029698/why-do-we-use-c...
- rwmj 7y agoI've played with the AMD Daytona Rome Server (two EPYC sockets, 2*64 = 128 cores, 256 threads), with RHEL, and it rocks. However it's quite hard to find workloads that keep all 256 threads busy at once. Most builds aren't nearly parallel enough, most programs can't find work for 256 threads. So as a personal machine 128 or 256 threads aren't really worth it unless money is no object. Likely the best current use for these is as servers for running large numbers of virtual machines or containers.
- tn890 7y agoMaking it an ESXi host would be the obvious solution.
- nineteen999 7y agoBlender's Cycles renderer would also eat those cores for lunch with a detailed enough scene.
- anon73044 7y agoAnd get raked over the coals with vmWare's new per core license update? Only quad channel? Only 256gb of ram supported? A pair of used 7601s, motherboard, ram, power supply and chassis would still be cheaper for a SOHO setup.
- glangdale 7y agoI am craving one of these for my superoptimizer. The level of task parallelism I have is north of 100M independent jobs; my last run took a single-core machine 20 days. It's pretty rare to have a workload like this but as more machines ship with >16 cores, I think more developers will look at the order-of-magnitude improvements of parallelizing their tasks where possible.
- growlist 7y agoExactly. I'd say there's a fair chance that anyone playing about with this type of hardware will want to be tweaking fairly low-level config etc. of the type that's hidden in Windows anyhow.
- Ottolay 7y agoThey really should have done both Windows and Linux for these type of non-gaming processors. Expect more from Anandtech.
- leetcrew 7y agothey already ran the benchmarks three times just for windows. it would be nice to see linux numbers too, but you can't criticize the level of effort they put in.
- danmg 7y agoI've been using my 64-core threadripper on ubuntu without a problem.