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It's been well known for some time that dairy has a lot of problems, everything from Puss, to being linked to prostate cancer in men, and it's even been linked

It's been well known for some time that dairy has a lot of problems, everything from Puss, to being linked to prostate cancer in men, and it's even been linked to type 1 diabetes, and numerous other health concerns. And, it's not like you can just drink the fat-free variety and be okay. It's the actual dairy proteins that are problematic, not that the fat doesn't have problems either. Oat milk tastes great and it's good for you, for the most part. The problem with oat milk is, they add a bunch of oil to it. they say it's just 2%, but I think thats by volume or mass. if they go by it's actual proportion (by calories), its nearly 25%! Almond milk is great for you, but it doesn't taste as good as real almonds, so why drink it? Soymilk is the one I really like but they add a bunch of stuff to it like calcium carbonate, which really didn't need in the first place. you can find soymilk with nothing added to it, but you really got a go to one of those specialty shops. Personally, I like to make homemade quinoa milk, it's pretty good and you can adjust how much thickness you want based on the ratio of water. it's easy to make.

chrbarrol 7y ago
Do you have sources for any of the claims above?
- thorwasdfasdf 7y ago
  on google you can find some: https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20051206/lots-of-dairy-linked-to-prostate-cancer#1 https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20051206/lots-of-... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11566656 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11566656 But, I remember hearing about it from the talks that Dr Milton Mills (Associate Director of Preventive Medicine with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)) gave. And, i've heard it in other places as well. For instance in Forks over Knives (the documentary), they were saying that in Japan there 17 cases of prostate cancer (before they started eating dairy) in the entire country, when in the US there was something like 15000. And, then there was the China study, also mentioned in that documentary. there's some fairly compelling stuff in that documentary, it blew my mind.
maximente 7y ago
Edensoy (2 ingredients) is available at walmart (also walmart.com)
- thorwasdfasdf 7y ago
  that's impressive. I wouldn't have thought that would be available at walmart.
Supermancho 7y ago
> Almond milk is great for you, but it doesn't taste as good as real almonds, so why drink it? Because there are some foods that only make sense with a milk substance added (eg cereal). Almond milk, alone, isn't very ... tasty. Usually there are variants (sweetened, vanilla, chocolate) because it's not great. Almonds are also terrible for the environment, vis a vis water conservation, given what it takes to grow them. I currently prefer Flaxseed milk.
- rezgi 7y ago
  > Almonds are also terrible for the environment, vis a vis water conservation, given what it takes to grow them. From the article: > Even almond milk, a notorious water-hogger, takes less water to produce than dairy – needing on average 371 litres of water per litre of milk produced, compared to dairy milk’s 628 litres. Rice milk follows shortly behind, needing 270 litres of water per litre of milk. Soy and oat, on the other hand, need just 28 and 48 respectively.
tiew9Vii 7y ago
> Almond milk is great for you Is it though? It's essentially flavored water with a thicker texture and a high percentage of the nutritional benefit of Almonds discarded in the production process. If "great for you" is lower calories compared to dairy fair enough. If you want to loose weight, drink a lot of dairy and swap to almond milk it will help you reduce calorie consumption. If great is high nutritional value it's not very good and why many brands fortify it adding additional vitamins etc. I used to drink Almond milk but avoid it now as it's expensive water, little nutritional value and the environmental impact producing almonds at scale is pretty bad.

chrbarrol 7y ago

Do you have sources for any of the claims above?

thorwasdfasdf 7y ago
on google you can find some: https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20051206/lots-of-dairy-linked-to-prostate-cancer#1 https://www.webmd.com/prostate-cancer/news/20051206/lots-of-... https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11566656 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11566656 But, I remember hearing about it from the talks that Dr Milton Mills (Associate Director of Preventive Medicine with the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (PCRM)) gave. And, i've heard it in other places as well. For instance in Forks over Knives (the documentary), they were saying that in Japan there 17 cases of prostate cancer (before they started eating dairy) in the entire country, when in the US there was something like 15000. And, then there was the China study, also mentioned in that documentary. there's some fairly compelling stuff in that documentary, it blew my mind.

maximente 7y ago

Edensoy (2 ingredients) is available at walmart (also walmart.com)

thorwasdfasdf 7y ago
that's impressive. I wouldn't have thought that would be available at walmart.

Supermancho 7y ago

> Almond milk is great for you, but it doesn't taste as good as real almonds, so why drink it? Because there are some foods that only make sense with a milk substance added (eg cereal). Almond milk, alone, isn't very ... tasty. Usually there are variants (sweetened, vanilla, chocolate) because it's not great. Almonds are also terrible for the environment, vis a vis water conservation, given what it takes to grow them. I currently prefer Flaxseed milk.

rezgi 7y ago
> Almonds are also terrible for the environment, vis a vis water conservation, given what it takes to grow them. From the article: > Even almond milk, a notorious water-hogger, takes less water to produce than dairy – needing on average 371 litres of water per litre of milk produced, compared to dairy milk’s 628 litres. Rice milk follows shortly behind, needing 270 litres of water per litre of milk. Soy and oat, on the other hand, need just 28 and 48 respectively.

tiew9Vii 7y ago

> Almond milk is great for you Is it though? It's essentially flavored water with a thicker texture and a high percentage of the nutritional benefit of Almonds discarded in the production process. If "great for you" is lower calories compared to dairy fair enough. If you want to loose weight, drink a lot of dairy and swap to almond milk it will help you reduce calorie consumption. If great is high nutritional value it's not very good and why many brands fortify it adding additional vitamins etc. I used to drink Almond milk but avoid it now as it's expensive water, little nutritional value and the environmental impact producing almonds at scale is pretty bad.