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I’m going to be cynical and applaud the author at one of the most effective S.E.O. efforts I have seen lately: including his own app on a list of effective and

by qubex 7y ago

I’m going to be cynical and applaud the author at one of the most effective S.E.O. efforts I have seen lately: including his own app on a list of effective and well-curated apps for startups.

harrisreynolds 7y ago
This is a great point. A good move by the author. Add some value, but extract some value as well. Here is the process for everyone. Insert your tool in #2 1) Create post about the tools you use 2) Include Webase [1] 3) Watch traffic roll in! :-) [1] https://www.webase.com https://www.webase.com
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riantogo 7y ago
That is brilliant. Here is a list of 10 experts in their field. #5 Self.
kupopuffs 7y ago
Do cynical people applaud? This is more of a woke economist perspective.
amelius 7y ago
If everybody does this then I guess it's up to Google to compute the consensus among those lists.
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donmcronald 7y ago
I think it's unethical. It's very similar to all of the paid content garbage that's saturated Google over the last few years. Is his app really the best option in that product space? I know most people around here will applaud the effort as clever, but I think it's the type of tactic that's ruining the internet. Nothing gets published without some marketing related alterior motive.
- hello_moto 7y ago
  > Is his app really the best option in that product space? Does it have to be the best? Is the best for you? or for the consumer segment he targeted? Who's judging? > I think it's unethical. It's very similar to all of the paid content garbage that's saturated Google over the last few years. Do you prefer cold-call? Door-too-door salesman? One of your subscriber emails slip it in? > Nothing gets published without some marketing related alterior motive. Why is this ruining the internet? 99% of the content is about the SaaS he used to run his businesses and one of them happened to be "X" that he mentioned down the list. He disclose it and he's nothing more than dog-fooding his own stuff. This is MILESSSS better than anything else out there. By your litmus-test, YCombinator (and hackernews) have some marketing related ulterior motives as well.
- shanecleveland 7y ago
  >Is his app really the best option in that product space? He didn't say it was the best. He said he pays for it and uses it. Nothing wrong with dogfooding. I'd be worried if he wasn't using it. And he offers a full disclaimer.
- lubujackson 7y ago
  I think it is 100% defensible if they put out a "this is my app" disclaimer, and I personally don't fault anyone for not including that as long as they aren't lying about it. Getting anyone to try a product is hard. If you put in effort to research, organize, share and promote useful domain knowledge and I find the rest of your advice useful, you have provided a decent resume for the app. Yes, people are always selling you something and that is annoying, but I would much rather an honest post with a small self-serving ad than the alternative which seems to be a top 10 list written by a freelancer for $5 and ranked by referral payouts. Well-researched articles written for no reason are few and far between.
- angelbar 7y ago
  "All The Apps That I Pay For"
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QuantumGood 7y ago
A very old content marketing formula made somewhat famous again years ago by Buffer App (Buffer.com)—#8 on this list. Disclosure: I was (briefly) VP Mktg at Buffer. While there I pushed more for creating evergreen content than tool lists https://buffer.com/resources/author/dave https://buffer.com/resources/author/dave

by qubex 7y ago

I’m going to be cynical and applaud the author at one of the most effective S.E.O. efforts I have seen lately: including his own app on a list of effective and well-curated apps for startups.

harrisreynolds 7y ago

This is a great point. A good move by the author. Add some value, but extract some value as well. Here is the process for everyone. Insert your tool in #2 1) Create post about the tools you use 2) Include Webase [1] 3) Watch traffic roll in! :-) [1] https://www.webase.com https://www.webase.com

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riantogo 7y ago

That is brilliant. Here is a list of 10 experts in their field. #5 Self.

kupopuffs 7y ago

Do cynical people applaud? This is more of a woke economist perspective.

amelius 7y ago

If everybody does this then I guess it's up to Google to compute the consensus among those lists.

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donmcronald 7y ago

I think it's unethical. It's very similar to all of the paid content garbage that's saturated Google over the last few years. Is his app really the best option in that product space? I know most people around here will applaud the effort as clever, but I think it's the type of tactic that's ruining the internet. Nothing gets published without some marketing related alterior motive.

hello_moto 7y ago
> Is his app really the best option in that product space? Does it have to be the best? Is the best for you? or for the consumer segment he targeted? Who's judging? > I think it's unethical. It's very similar to all of the paid content garbage that's saturated Google over the last few years. Do you prefer cold-call? Door-too-door salesman? One of your subscriber emails slip it in? > Nothing gets published without some marketing related alterior motive. Why is this ruining the internet? 99% of the content is about the SaaS he used to run his businesses and one of them happened to be "X" that he mentioned down the list. He disclose it and he's nothing more than dog-fooding his own stuff. This is MILESSSS better than anything else out there. By your litmus-test, YCombinator (and hackernews) have some marketing related ulterior motives as well.
shanecleveland 7y ago
>Is his app really the best option in that product space? He didn't say it was the best. He said he pays for it and uses it. Nothing wrong with dogfooding. I'd be worried if he wasn't using it. And he offers a full disclaimer.
lubujackson 7y ago
I think it is 100% defensible if they put out a "this is my app" disclaimer, and I personally don't fault anyone for not including that as long as they aren't lying about it. Getting anyone to try a product is hard. If you put in effort to research, organize, share and promote useful domain knowledge and I find the rest of your advice useful, you have provided a decent resume for the app. Yes, people are always selling you something and that is annoying, but I would much rather an honest post with a small self-serving ad than the alternative which seems to be a top 10 list written by a freelancer for $5 and ranked by referral payouts. Well-researched articles written for no reason are few and far between.
angelbar 7y ago
"All The Apps That I Pay For"
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QuantumGood 7y ago

A very old content marketing formula made somewhat famous again years ago by Buffer App (Buffer.com)—#8 on this list. Disclosure: I was (briefly) VP Mktg at Buffer. While there I pushed more for creating evergreen content than tool lists https://buffer.com/resources/author/dave https://buffer.com/resources/author/dave