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Isn't it rather trivial to find who is accessing a website if you can manage to monitor tor nodes? Just do some heuristic, to see when traffic happens, and over
by jokoon 7y ago
Isn't it rather trivial to find who is accessing a website if you can manage to monitor tor nodes? Just do some heuristic, to see when traffic happens, and over time, narrow down users.
If you're the FBI and have the authority to monitor the whole internet, isn't it trivial to catch any tor user?
Tor is still secure, but of course if you are the government and have skilled engineers, time and admin access to the internet infrastructure (by legit or covert means, I'm pretty sure the US can monitor traffic outside his jurisdiction), tor is not safe. But tor is still safe from countries other than the US, unless the US government have a problem with what you're doing.
I would still be curious to see if tor does counter this problem by passively sending traffic to avoid this. Anyway I stand that there are 2 kinds of security: security against small bad actors, and security against competent, resourceful, big actors. The latter is usually impossible to get because it becomes extremely fastidious and complicated.
- safety-third 7y agoThis would be more NSA jurisdiction and they do. The problem is most people's assumption is that if one part of the government has it, then everyone gets it. This is wildly false. Even within the FBI itself, different departments and cases get different tiers of access. Even when the case agents get access, policy dictates what evidence is allowed to be taken to a public trial. Otherwise you get repeats of the FBI/4chan/8chan debacle. This is especially true for legal "grey areas" like mass surveillance. This means that agents will often get evidence they won't use in order to guide active surveillance using more legal means in order to collect evidence they feel comfortable admitting in public court.
- meowface 7y agoWhat FBI/4chan/8chan debacle? Are you referring to when an agent's search warrant evidence revealed their own 8chan posts? (https://ceinquiry.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/fbi-8chan/ https://ceinquiry.wordpress.com/2019/06/17/fbi-8chan/)
- anxman 7y agoThis is not accurate. The NSA launders evidence that would otherwise violate the 4th amendment through its "special operations division" using "parallel construction".