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> Though I'm a bit confused about whether Wayland (as an experimental option) in upcoming Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is even supported. I've been using Wayland out of th

by antod 7y ago

> Though I'm a bit confused about whether Wayland (as an experimental option) in upcoming Ubuntu 20.04 LTS is even supported. I've been using Wayland out of the box on 19.04 and 19.10 to get fractional scaling and independent DPIs on multiple monitors (Thinkpads of various ages with Intel GPUs). If it's experimental, they've certainly hid that well. It was just a login option on the display manager with no warnings about it during install or later.

tannhaeuser 7y ago
That's encouraging to hear - I'll give it a try.
e12e 7y ago
Appreciate the experience report. But non-lts releases are by some definitions all "experimental" - I had the impression canonical pushed for Wayland in 18.04,but then walked it back a bit. Hm, Wayland by default in 17.10, then back to optional in 18.04 - and so it might stay: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/xorg-will-default-display-server-ubuntu-18-04-lts https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/xorg-will-default-displa... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=No-Wayland-Default-20.04-LTS https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=No-Wayla... I'm a little surprised, not default for 18.04 made a lot of sense, but I'm not sure why 20.04 won't see a switch.
- antod 7y ago
  Not being experimental and being the default option are still two different things though. Even in 19.10, while it is installed as part of the default install without experimental warnings, it still isn't the default session option. It is still a very slightly rougher experience than xorg - mainly due to some 3rd party apps not fully handling it yet. But the scaling options more than make up for it with me. One of those features (either fractional scaling or independent DPIs) was still regarded as experimental enough to require a CLI command to enable it though. So, not perfect, but good enough for me.

by antod 7y ago

tannhaeuser 7y ago

That's encouraging to hear - I'll give it a try.

e12e 7y ago

Appreciate the experience report. But non-lts releases are by some definitions all "experimental" - I had the impression canonical pushed for Wayland in 18.04,but then walked it back a bit. Hm, Wayland by default in 17.10, then back to optional in 18.04 - and so it might stay: https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/xorg-will-default-display-server-ubuntu-18-04-lts https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2018/01/xorg-will-default-displa... https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=No-Wayland-Default-20.04-LTS https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=No-Wayla... I'm a little surprised, not default for 18.04 made a lot of sense, but I'm not sure why 20.04 won't see a switch.

antod 7y ago
Not being experimental and being the default option are still two different things though. Even in 19.10, while it is installed as part of the default install without experimental warnings, it still isn't the default session option. It is still a very slightly rougher experience than xorg - mainly due to some 3rd party apps not fully handling it yet. But the scaling options more than make up for it with me. One of those features (either fractional scaling or independent DPIs) was still regarded as experimental enough to require a CLI command to enable it though. So, not perfect, but good enough for me.