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Incidentally Pirates of the Apple put together first Mac. Though not exactly rag-tag, but brilliant, just a counter example I suppose.
by perlpimp 7y ago
Incidentally Pirates of the Apple put together first Mac. Though not exactly rag-tag, but brilliant, just a counter example I suppose.
- redis_mlc 7y agoWell, the Mac was designed and developed by Apple engineers hand-picked by Steve Jobs. So it was an official long-term project with backing by the CEO. > just a counter example It took me a while to understand why HN'ers revel in "the counter-example." In mathematical proofs, you only need one counter-example to refute a proof or argument. Pedantic HN'ers seemingly fail to realize that mathematics and the real world are not the same thing.
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- pbhjpbhj 7y agoI think it's the opposite of what you're imagining. Refutation is generally a claim that the truth of the situation is more nuanced than a simplistic statement would make it seem. Here you're right to raise issue, but it seems the comment is merely trying to point out that 'not all [Scottish!?!] rag-tag teams are bad' and idea draw attention to some such teams being superb. Which seems a fair comment to me.
- Angostura 7y agoI don't think that the goal here is refutation, its adding additional data-points give a more nuanced picture.
- magduf 7y ago>In mathematical proofs, you only need one counter-example to refute a proof or argument. The things we're talking about here aren't mathematical axioms, they're general trends. One counter-example does not disprove a trend. Every real-life trend has exceptions, and it frequently is interesting to examine the exceptions to see why they bucked the trend.