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For another interactive data visualizations, I enjoyed: - "Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950" https://flowingdata.com/2017/09/11/most-female-and-male

by stared 7y ago

For another interactive data visualizations, I enjoyed: - "Most Female and Male Occupations Since 1950" https://flowingdata.com/2017/09/11/most-female-and-male-occupations-since-1950/ https://flowingdata.com/2017/09/11/most-female-and-male-occu... - "Singles, 18-64" - on gender imbalance in various cities in the USA (in particular, San Francisco and New York) http://jonathansoma.com/singles/ http://jonathansoma.com/singles/

baron816 7y ago
> New Orleans used to be a great place to find an unmarried girl in her twenties, but now they've all migrated north to Jackson, Mississippi. There’s a whole lot under the covers here. Low marriage rates and high incarceration rates among young black men probably created a high ratio of single young women in New Orleans and Jackson. Depopulation among the black community post Hurricane Katrina likely explains the relative decrease in single women in New Orleans.
- selimthegrim 7y ago
  Living in New Orleans, you beat me to it.
big_chungus 7y ago
I'm a bit confused by the "Singles, 20-34" map in your second link. How can there be more single men than women essentially everywhere if there is roughly an even balance of men and women (which there is?) I don't know of any weird dip in the female birthrate 20-34 years ago.
- projectramo 7y ago
  More men are born than women but women live longer on average so the ratio stays around even.
  - DoreenMichele 7y ago
    While the gender ratio for a particular age gets increasingly skewed. Past a certain age, it's mostly old women. Since, on average, men tend to marry women a few years younger than them, older women face a rather tough dating market and it gets worse with every passing year that they fail to die.
- mellosouls 7y ago
  Dealing with heterosexual couplings only, the "50/50 balance = no excess singles" theory assumes men and women pair up equally, but if, say, a percentage of women go for a significantly smaller percentage of men - and share them - this would lead to an excess of single men. As this seems to be a touchy subject with some, I'm not trying to make a point, just relating how this could statistically work - and of course, it would work the other way round and leave an excess of women. This reversal may be indicated at the 50+ age ranges in some of the links where single women are in the excess in that demographic.
- imtringued 7y ago
  People don't marry within the same age bracket. Younger women marry older men. So if you are male and in your 20s you are competing against single men in their 30s and 40s who are all going for girls in their 20s.
8f2ab37a-ed6c 7y ago
Wow, fascinating data, thanks for sharing. Wonder how much that gender disparity has contributed to the various "movements" of young men deciding to give up on mating altogether. Assuming monogamy, it's a zero sum game, and it looks like, at least until men hit 50 there's no way for everybody to be paired up, so you either compete or you are likely to fall into that spillover bucket. Obviously this is a vastly complex topic, but I wonder how much impact it has on society's stability. Would be interesting to learn more about it.
dartdartdart 7y ago
Why are there so many more single men than women until mid-ages, where male death causes more single women than men?
dartdartdart 7y ago
> Among 20- and 30-somethings, almost every single city in America has more single men than single women. Although no single woman in New York will believe it, I promise it's true. Could the common complaint among NYC women be that it's not as balanced in their favor as they've been used to? Maybe it's because men aren't looking for relationships until later on in life? Or perhaps could it be due to the increased financial pressure society has on men which leads to increased standards for a male partner? Or maybe society has an increased dating pressure due to a female's age, which makes less females successful in their search due to their age? Regardless of why these differences exist, it seems loneliness is only getting worse, and we are trending towards a less and less compassionate future. How can people help with the issue?
- blaser-waffle 7y ago
  Casual dating and high concentrations mean there is no incentive to stick around if things aren't 100% what you're looking for. And if you're reasonably pretty then you have no shortage of options -- why settle, esp. if you're not looking to settle down?

by stared 7y ago

baron816 7y ago

> New Orleans used to be a great place to find an unmarried girl in her twenties, but now they've all migrated north to Jackson, Mississippi. There’s a whole lot under the covers here. Low marriage rates and high incarceration rates among young black men probably created a high ratio of single young women in New Orleans and Jackson. Depopulation among the black community post Hurricane Katrina likely explains the relative decrease in single women in New Orleans.

selimthegrim 7y ago
Living in New Orleans, you beat me to it.

big_chungus 7y ago

I'm a bit confused by the "Singles, 20-34" map in your second link. How can there be more single men than women essentially everywhere if there is roughly an even balance of men and women (which there is?) I don't know of any weird dip in the female birthrate 20-34 years ago.

projectramo 7y ago
More men are born than women but women live longer on average so the ratio stays around even.
- DoreenMichele 7y ago
  While the gender ratio for a particular age gets increasingly skewed. Past a certain age, it's mostly old women. Since, on average, men tend to marry women a few years younger than them, older women face a rather tough dating market and it gets worse with every passing year that they fail to die.
mellosouls 7y ago
Dealing with heterosexual couplings only, the "50/50 balance = no excess singles" theory assumes men and women pair up equally, but if, say, a percentage of women go for a significantly smaller percentage of men - and share them - this would lead to an excess of single men. As this seems to be a touchy subject with some, I'm not trying to make a point, just relating how this could statistically work - and of course, it would work the other way round and leave an excess of women. This reversal may be indicated at the 50+ age ranges in some of the links where single women are in the excess in that demographic.
imtringued 7y ago
People don't marry within the same age bracket. Younger women marry older men. So if you are male and in your 20s you are competing against single men in their 30s and 40s who are all going for girls in their 20s.

8f2ab37a-ed6c 7y ago

Wow, fascinating data, thanks for sharing. Wonder how much that gender disparity has contributed to the various "movements" of young men deciding to give up on mating altogether. Assuming monogamy, it's a zero sum game, and it looks like, at least until men hit 50 there's no way for everybody to be paired up, so you either compete or you are likely to fall into that spillover bucket. Obviously this is a vastly complex topic, but I wonder how much impact it has on society's stability. Would be interesting to learn more about it.

dartdartdart 7y ago

Why are there so many more single men than women until mid-ages, where male death causes more single women than men?

dartdartdart 7y ago

> Among 20- and 30-somethings, almost every single city in America has more single men than single women. Although no single woman in New York will believe it, I promise it's true. Could the common complaint among NYC women be that it's not as balanced in their favor as they've been used to? Maybe it's because men aren't looking for relationships until later on in life? Or perhaps could it be due to the increased financial pressure society has on men which leads to increased standards for a male partner? Or maybe society has an increased dating pressure due to a female's age, which makes less females successful in their search due to their age? Regardless of why these differences exist, it seems loneliness is only getting worse, and we are trending towards a less and less compassionate future. How can people help with the issue?

blaser-waffle 7y ago
Casual dating and high concentrations mean there is no incentive to stick around if things aren't 100% what you're looking for. And if you're reasonably pretty then you have no shortage of options -- why settle, esp. if you're not looking to settle down?