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They’re not especially when you include localization and 32 and 64 bit versions needed for app compat.

Dylan16807 7y ago
If localization is that bulky, then installing a pile of locales should be the optional feature. Why does app compat need two separate executables? And compatibility isn't a reason to remove two versions instead of one...
- binarycrusader 7y ago
  Localizations are generally provided by a combination of "Language Packs" and "Satellite Packages" [0] so it works as you expect. But the ability to have "dynamic localization" has a cost in and of itself since localization is not just merely text but in some cases program code as well. As for two executables? It's complicated and there are application compatibility considerations. I don't know what you're referring to with "isn't a reason to remove two versions instead of one". [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/features-on-demand-v2--capabilities https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufactur...
  - Dylan16807 7y ago
    > I don't know what you're referring to with "isn't a reason to remove two versions instead of one". The news is that you can remove all versions, and I'm saying that's not a major space savings. So when you mention there are two versions, to say the space savings are larger... okay, that's true, but if you're removing the program then you don't care about app compat anyway. So you could remove one, and leave the other one alone. Or in other words, the existence of two versions is not something that makes it a better idea to remove everything.
    - binarycrusader 7y ago
      I'm saying that's not a major space savings. Consider two things you may have not: low storage space systems that need to prioritize security updates over functionality where every megabyte matters, and savings at sufficient scale from reduced bandwidth, cpu usage, energy costs, etc. At the individual system level some things often don’t make sense until you consider them at the scale of hundreds of millions of systems or for particular environments. This is a good thing, really.
      - Dylan16807 7y ago
        Those systems should not be running a >10GB OS... And no matter what, notepad should be near the bottom of the list of things to make removable.

If localization is that bulky, then installing a pile of locales should be the optional feature. Why does app compat need two separate executables? And compatibility isn't a reason to remove two versions instead of one...

binarycrusader 7y ago
Localizations are generally provided by a combination of "Language Packs" and "Satellite Packages" [0] so it works as you expect. But the ability to have "dynamic localization" has a cost in and of itself since localization is not just merely text but in some cases program code as well. As for two executables? It's complicated and there are application compatibility considerations. I don't know what you're referring to with "isn't a reason to remove two versions instead of one". [0] https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufacture/desktop/features-on-demand-v2--capabilities https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/manufactur...
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  > I don't know what you're referring to with "isn't a reason to remove two versions instead of one". The news is that you can remove all versions, and I'm saying that's not a major space savings. So when you mention there are two versions, to say the space savings are larger... okay, that's true, but if you're removing the program then you don't care about app compat anyway. So you could remove one, and leave the other one alone. Or in other words, the existence of two versions is not something that makes it a better idea to remove everything.
  - binarycrusader 7y ago
    I'm saying that's not a major space savings. Consider two things you may have not: low storage space systems that need to prioritize security updates over functionality where every megabyte matters, and savings at sufficient scale from reduced bandwidth, cpu usage, energy costs, etc. At the individual system level some things often don’t make sense until you consider them at the scale of hundreds of millions of systems or for particular environments. This is a good thing, really.
    - Dylan16807 7y ago
      Those systems should not be running a >10GB OS... And no matter what, notepad should be near the bottom of the list of things to make removable.