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Windows 10 to offer Paint and WordPad as optional features
- sys_64738 7y agoFor Windows do you really need any other apps than a default browser and WSL installed by default?
- ISL 7y agoLast I checked, I couldn't run any X apps under WSL.
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- austincummings 7y agoYou can, you just need an X server set up on Windows, and the DISPLAY variable configured.
- ptrott2017 7y agoAs ac said - use something like X410 for xserver in windows and in wsl set: export DISPLAY=:0 for other approaches see: https://askubuntu.com/questions/993225/whats-the-easiest-way-to-run-gui-apps-on-windows-subsystem-for-linux-as-of-2018 https://askubuntu.com/questions/993225/whats-the-easiest-way...
- ISL 7y agoThanks! I'll be very happy the day I can sudo apt install lyx gnuplot octave octave-forge darktable gimp fluxbox on a windows box, and have my workplace spring to life, all dependencies handled. I'm very glad to hear that wsl has a viable display export -- the next time I have occasion to use a Windows 10 box, I'll give it a try.
- nolok 7y agoNotepad, calculator,... Definitely. I'm almost surprised they removed paint to optional, although WordPad makes a lot of sense.
- divyanka1916 7y agoThey're also turning Notepad into an optional feature
- alerighi 7y agoI don't get why they still provide you with the stupid notepad. Just throw it away and preinstall Visual Studio Code as a text editor, Notepad is useless.
- emilfihlman 7y agoNotepad is one of the most used programs on my machine.
- Someone1234 7y agoI only have three applications permanently pinned to my Taskbar and one of them is Notepad. I use it almost thoughtlessly as a scratchpad, clipboard cleaner, note taker.
- fuzzfactor 7y agoIf you compose in notepad with word wrap enabled, you can disable word wrap afterward then select all, copy & paste directly into email boxes. The email app then formats it OK, and you have a local copy that can be found & opened without a word processing app.
- humanlion87 7y agoI find it very useful to quickly copy-paste some stuff (use like a clipboard) and use it for temporary scratch notes while working on something. I wouldn't want to boot up a bloated software like visual studio code everytime for such a simple use case.
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- chrisseaton 7y agoMakes sense - if you don’t need them why have them installed. I wish operating systems had better ways to let you install less stuff.
- sedatk 7y agoThey had to open up space for Candy Crush Saga.
- tinus_hn 7y agoNow are the Candy Crush ads going to be optional?
- grawprog 7y agoI'm sure wordpad and paint will come back when they find a way to cram IAPs into them. On that note...no...no I doubt candy crush will be going anywhere.
- ChrisSD 7y agoThey actually are but it's on by default. The setting is called "Show suggestions occasionally in Start".
- modzu 7y agoand this setting is subject to being reset with each windows update. where is the setting to lock your settings?
- ChrisSD 7y agoThis should never be reset. There was a feature update that reset some settings when it was first rolled out. This is why I advise people to delay feature updates for at least a few weeks. There's no advantage to being an unpaid QA tester.
- ChrisSD 7y agoThis isn't about having a minimal install. It merely removes links to paint and Wordpad. > This change does not remove Paint or WordPad from Windows 10, but you can now disable both apps and also remove traces of these apps from the Start Menu and other locations. I suspect it's done because they consider Paint and Wordpad to be deprecated and want to help discourage use.
- Santosh83 7y agoThey're really pushing the Paint3D app, the Mixed Reality Viewer and the Photos app to take over Paint's roles and beyond. As for Wordpad they probably will deprecate and disable to gently nudge people to online Office 365 cloud subscriptions. Another reason I suppose is to decouple these apps from Windows system so their replacements can be updated through the store instead of waiting for OS feature updates.
- nathanaldensr 7y agoPaint3D is an atrocious, poorly-designed app. Tools are all over the place, familiar shortcuts have disappeared, and the UI looks like it was designed for the Windows 8 vision of Windows-on-a-tablet. No thanks. WIN+R, mspaint, ENTER--every time.
- arminiusreturns 7y agoUse rufus to burn a linux iso and install over the top. No more windows. Really need something? Run it in wine. Break away from Microsofts abusive ecosystem.
- MeltySmelty 7y agono thanks. not worth the headache.
- gambiting 7y agoVisual Studio doesn't run in Wine as far as I know.
- ta999999171 7y agoVSCode is cross platform, what does Visual Studio do that it can't?
- deadcat 7y agoIf you are writing .net core sure. Otherwise you are going to hit issues building and debugging. Why you would be attempting that outside of a Windows VM, I'm not sure.
- vezycash 7y agoMicrosoft is confused.
- jotm 7y agoIt's been a loooong time since I used them. Sometimes, maybe on a fresh install, maybe when Win10 has decided to reset your defaults, there's that rare .rtf, .nfo, .bmp or some other file that awakens WordPad or Paint from their deep slumber in the depths of Microsoft Hell. Presumably, Cthulhu comes next, which is why it's vital to hit the X button as soon as possible and stave off the apocalypse.
- modzu 7y agohow about candy crush???
- butz 7y agoHow about adding option to customize "additional features" during Windows installation, like it was in Windows 98?
- Jedd 7y ago> As you can see in the above screenshot, a system reboot is required to uninstall Paint and WordPad. This is spectacular, and I'm consumed with curiosity wrt what's going on under the hood when you remove these two programmes. More than just changes to file associations, natch. Along with: > The size of Microsoft Paint is 6.68 MB and WordPad occupies 6.25 MB ... ... and my curiosity extends to what kind of non-enterprise user (ie. someone who has to attend to this step manually) would bother.
- seieste 7y agoMy predictions Sometime within the next 2 years, Microsoft will release Word3D, which will be a text editor written in Electron and which will consume 100MB of memory to edit a 1KB text file.
- cm2187 7y agoAnd will reset your default application settings on every update to shove that monstrosity down your throat.
- askvictor 7y agoBack in the 90s I used to make fun of emacs for being a text editor that took up 20MB of disk space.
- yunruse 7y agoAh yes, who can forget Eighteen Megabytes And Constant Swapping? IIRC it comes from the Lispy environment that lends it its scriptability. Memory is cheap nowadays so we can afford to be less suave and use the multi-purpose well-rounded duct tape that is Javascript
- juststeve 7y agoconsume_your_RAM_and_give_us_money.exe
- thomasqm 7y agoVS code?