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> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. That

> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. That is so rough, especially since some healthcare workers are now among the dead: specifically, I saw that Li Wenliang had died. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-doctor-who-tried-to-warn-colleagues-in-wuhan-about-coronavirus-dies https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/chinese-doctor-w...

peteretep 7y ago
Last thing the CCP needs is martyrs against the state
- 101404 7y ago
  The CCP media machine will know how to spin it.
- microcolonel 7y ago
  They briefly pronounced him undead, then dead again, IIRC.
- Forgivenessizer 7y ago
  Easily solved by turning him into a state hero.
  - sudosysgen 7y ago
    A state hero that the state arrested and silence just weeks earlier? That would be transparent.
aphextron 7y ago
> "Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless." The absolute definition of heroes. It blows my mind to imagine ever having that sort of selfless dedication to helping others. For all the crappy things in the world these days, it's stuff like this that gives me hope for humanity.
- blackrock 7y ago
  > Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. This was one of the most tragic things in that article. The doctors, nurses, and health workers are the front line soldiers in this fight against the virus. And they don’t have the protective gear that they need to stay safe, and to keep the population safe, as well as the rest of the world. I hope they can fight the infection, and survive, and live to fight another day. We need them!
  - oefrha 7y ago
    According to a medical professional in my family who have close friends that have worked on the front line of epidemics, the high grade protective gears are like space suits, it takes close to an hour just to put them on and make sure they’re airtight, and taking them off takes even longer due to the significant risk of inflection (compared to when you put on a clean set) if you don’t take extreme care. Then there’s shower and stuff. You can’t eat or drink anything during the entire process, including the four to six hour shift in between putting on and taking off, and not surprisingly it’s extra taxing to work in the suits. Therefore, even if there are enough protective gear, fully equipping them basically cuts the available labor force by half, which is already heavily strained.
    - Laforet 7y ago
      You are probably thinking of hazmat suits and it's not the most common type. Medical staff in Wuhan wear disposable protective overalls that are made of a thin layer of polypropylene (as intended so it would be light and cheap) and easily torn. Thus it's necessary to avoid taking them on and off between shifts because the act will probably rip it beyond repair. Some also took the additional step of strapping plastic bags to their feet and forearm to protect against rupture. None of this would have been necessary if they had enough to go around.
      - Communitivity 7y ago
hkt 7y ago
I'm reminded of the people who went into Chernobyl to begin containment. Hard to call them anything but heroes.
- dmos62 7y ago
  > people who went into Chernobyl to begin containment I'm not an authority on the subject, but I was under the impression that those were soldiers and conscripts and they were ordered to go.
  - tomatocracy 7y ago
    Many were, and many were volunteers (or at least volunteered for that specific duty). I don't think that makes them any less heroic.
    - dmos62 7y ago
      I would like to discuss the definition of heroism (which might easily be culture-specific); however, I suspect that it is a highly sensitive subject in this context, so let's leave it at that.
  - avierax 7y ago
    Suggesting that soldiers cannot be heroes while on duty? It's rather common to see our cultures honor fallen soldiers and regard them as the archetypal case of heroes. Being on duty has never been considered a limitation.
- bredren 7y ago
  In the 2019 television series, they were miners conscripted into service on the disaster. And in the show they actually did work literally naked due to the heat.
  - AzzieElbab 7y ago
    Back in those days we were all drafted to the army and everyone ended up a reservist and therefore technically obligated to follow orders

peteretep 7y ago

Last thing the CCP needs is martyrs against the state

101404 7y ago
The CCP media machine will know how to spin it.
microcolonel 7y ago
They briefly pronounced him undead, then dead again, IIRC.
Forgivenessizer 7y ago
Easily solved by turning him into a state hero.
- sudosysgen 7y ago
  A state hero that the state arrested and silence just weeks earlier? That would be transparent.

aphextron 7y ago

> "Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless." The absolute definition of heroes. It blows my mind to imagine ever having that sort of selfless dedication to helping others. For all the crappy things in the world these days, it's stuff like this that gives me hope for humanity.

blackrock 7y ago
> Doctors there were running "naked" as they knew they were set to be infected given the shortage of protective gear. They still worked there nonetheless. This was one of the most tragic things in that article. The doctors, nurses, and health workers are the front line soldiers in this fight against the virus. And they don’t have the protective gear that they need to stay safe, and to keep the population safe, as well as the rest of the world. I hope they can fight the infection, and survive, and live to fight another day. We need them!
- oefrha 7y ago
  According to a medical professional in my family who have close friends that have worked on the front line of epidemics, the high grade protective gears are like space suits, it takes close to an hour just to put them on and make sure they’re airtight, and taking them off takes even longer due to the significant risk of inflection (compared to when you put on a clean set) if you don’t take extreme care. Then there’s shower and stuff. You can’t eat or drink anything during the entire process, including the four to six hour shift in between putting on and taking off, and not surprisingly it’s extra taxing to work in the suits. Therefore, even if there are enough protective gear, fully equipping them basically cuts the available labor force by half, which is already heavily strained.
  - Laforet 7y ago
    You are probably thinking of hazmat suits and it's not the most common type. Medical staff in Wuhan wear disposable protective overalls that are made of a thin layer of polypropylene (as intended so it would be light and cheap) and easily torn. Thus it's necessary to avoid taking them on and off between shifts because the act will probably rip it beyond repair. Some also took the additional step of strapping plastic bags to their feet and forearm to protect against rupture. None of this would have been necessary if they had enough to go around.
    - Communitivity 7y ago

hkt 7y ago

I'm reminded of the people who went into Chernobyl to begin containment. Hard to call them anything but heroes.

dmos62 7y ago
> people who went into Chernobyl to begin containment I'm not an authority on the subject, but I was under the impression that those were soldiers and conscripts and they were ordered to go.
- tomatocracy 7y ago
  Many were, and many were volunteers (or at least volunteered for that specific duty). I don't think that makes them any less heroic.
  - dmos62 7y ago
    I would like to discuss the definition of heroism (which might easily be culture-specific); however, I suspect that it is a highly sensitive subject in this context, so let's leave it at that.
- avierax 7y ago
  Suggesting that soldiers cannot be heroes while on duty? It's rather common to see our cultures honor fallen soldiers and regard them as the archetypal case of heroes. Being on duty has never been considered a limitation.
bredren 7y ago
In the 2019 television series, they were miners conscripted into service on the disaster. And in the show they actually did work literally naked due to the heat.
- AzzieElbab 7y ago
  Back in those days we were all drafted to the army and everyone ended up a reservist and therefore technically obligated to follow orders