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> [...] We have ample proof that Avalanche Software was already upset about homebrew and emulation thanks to a crude message found hidden in the data of 2007's
by GuiA 7y ago
> [...] We have ample proof that Avalanche Software was already upset about homebrew and emulation thanks to a crude message found hidden in the data of 2007's Meet the Robinsons, however it's very unlikely that this is anti-emulation behavior.
Can't find more about this by Googling around... anyone knows what the crude message was and where it was hidden?
- christoph-heiss 7y agoYou can read more about this on TCRF [0]. [0] https://tcrf.net/Meet_the_Robinsons_(GameCube)#Dev_Message https://tcrf.net/Meet_the_Robinsons_(GameCube)#Dev_Message
- ddtaylor 7y ago> I'm a H4X0R b3c4us3 I l0ve c0ck https://tcrf.net/Meet_the_Robinsons_(GameCube)#Dev_Message https://tcrf.net/Meet_the_Robinsons_(GameCube)#Dev_Message
- Rebelgecko 7y agoIt would be hilarious if this got a game based on a Disney movie reclassified as M for Mature, kinda like the GTA Hot Coffee mod or how Elder Scrolls:Oblivion got reclassified based on unused art assets on the disc
- Wowfunhappy 7y agoIf that's all it is, I really don't think it tells us anything about the developer's opinions on homebrew/modding/emulation.
- monocasa 7y agoAvalanche is specifically known for it's anti emulation code. Previously they've had to deal with a piece of code that is designed only to work with the gamecube's L2 cache, and crashes emulators that don't emulate the cache layers close enough. Which emulators rarely do as it's prohibitively expensive; you're looking at somewhere between an order of magnitude and two lower perf. This code doesn't do anything in the good case, and doesn't have any reason to exist except to be an anti-emulation check.
- Wowfunhappy 7y agoYes, that's mentioned in the article, but it happened after this particular game.
- IntelMiner 7y agoI'd love to see a Q&A session with the programmers about those games. Putting so many incredible "anti-piracy" or "anti-emulation" pain points into games most people would consider shovelware
- danbolt 7y agoPart of me wonders if it was a request from Disney, given that the value of the IP being emulated in an unlicensed product would be undesirable to them.
- Ocerge 7y agoAh, what a lovely mid-2000s time capsule
- eganist 7y agotcrf.net fails on the latest version of Firefox due to lack of TLS 1.2 support. Neat - first time I've seen this TLS error too. https://i.imgur.com/CnwV3bn.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CnwV3bn.jpg https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=tcrf.net https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=tcrf.net
- eternalny1 7y agoIt doesn't fail on 72.0.2 which is the latest stable. Do you mean on nightly?
- eganist 7y agoYou're right; forgot I was running 73 beta.
- corysama 7y agoTangentially related: IIRC, the demo disc version of one of the PS2 Metal Gear Solid games had a small texture sitting in VRAM that just contained the url http://konami.co.jp/xxx/ http://konami.co.jp/xxx/ If you visited the url, it was just a hit counter. I found out about it on Sony's PS2 registered developer forum. Someone had put the disc through the PS2 "Performance Analyzer"[1] and had a peek at the VRAM. When I hit it site it was in the low hundreds. A few months later it was in the low thousands. A few months after that it was gone. konami.co.jp apparently isn't even a thing anymore. [1]http://lukasz.dk/mirror/research-scea/research/pdfs/GDC2003_Intro_Performance_Analyzer_18Mar03.pdf http://lukasz.dk/mirror/research-scea/research/pdfs/GDC2003_...