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It did happen. Germany has shut down most of its nuclear power generation and is phasing the rest out by 2022. So far, 'researchers [..] found that nuclear powe

It did happen. Germany has shut down most of its nuclear power generation and is phasing the rest out by 2022. So far, 'researchers [..] found that nuclear power was mostly replaced with power from coal plants, which led to [..] about a 5 percent increase in emissions.' https://www.wired.com/story/germany-rejected-nuclear-powerand-deadly-emissions-spiked/ https://www.wired.com/story/germany-rejected-nuclear-poweran...

lispm 7y ago
Here are numbers: Renewables 2019: 46% Renewables 2000: 6% Coal + Gas 2019 40% Coal + Gas 2000 59%
- xnmaaa 7y ago
  Are the obnoxious wood pellets that spread fine dust included in the renewables? Give me nuclear any day.
  - lispm 7y ago
    wood pellets are basically not used for electricity production in Germany.
  - imtringued 7y ago
    Those are used for heating.
xxgreg 7y ago
Phrase it how you will, but this chart shows it clearly. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/paragraphs/images/fig2a-gross-power-production-germany-1990-2019-source.png?itok=gfWUQdcp https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/g...
imtringued 7y ago
Is this supposed to be a joke? How could you make an article about a 5% increase in 2020 when Germany has had the largest drop in emissions since a decade in 2019? It managed a 6.5% drop in total emissions even though the only thing that dropped were the CO2 emissions in the electricity sector. Just think about it. A rising population (influx of refugees), increased emissions in transport, industry, agriculture and somehow they almost managed a 7% drop while simultaneously increasing emissions by 5% in the electricity sector? No, the reality is that emissions dropped massively thanks to the introduction of renewables. Not as fast as many Germans want but it did happen. That article is just pure bullshit that isn't backed by any numbers. If they had picked 2015-2018 then maybe it would make sense but 2019? That's either pure incompetence or there is an agenda behind the article. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/german_ghg_emissions1990_2019_3.png?itok=H7TSWctG https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/g... https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/rising-carbon-prices-led-drop-german-emissions-2019-68112519 https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/rising-carbon-pric... https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/transport-and-heating-tarnish-germanys-emission-cuts-2019-researchers https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/transport-and-heating-t...

lispm 7y ago

Here are numbers: Renewables 2019: 46% Renewables 2000: 6% Coal + Gas 2019 40% Coal + Gas 2000 59%

xnmaaa 7y ago
Are the obnoxious wood pellets that spread fine dust included in the renewables? Give me nuclear any day.
- lispm 7y ago
  wood pellets are basically not used for electricity production in Germany.
- imtringued 7y ago
  Those are used for heating.

xxgreg 7y ago

Phrase it how you will, but this chart shows it clearly. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/paragraphs/images/fig2a-gross-power-production-germany-1990-2019-source.png?itok=gfWUQdcp https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/g...

imtringued 7y ago

Is this supposed to be a joke? How could you make an article about a 5% increase in 2020 when Germany has had the largest drop in emissions since a decade in 2019? It managed a 6.5% drop in total emissions even though the only thing that dropped were the CO2 emissions in the electricity sector. Just think about it. A rising population (influx of refugees), increased emissions in transport, industry, agriculture and somehow they almost managed a 7% drop while simultaneously increasing emissions by 5% in the electricity sector? No, the reality is that emissions dropped massively thanks to the introduction of renewables. Not as fast as many Germans want but it did happen. That article is just pure bullshit that isn't backed by any numbers. If they had picked 2015-2018 then maybe it would make sense but 2019? That's either pure incompetence or there is an agenda behind the article. https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/gallery_image/public/german_ghg_emissions1990_2019_3.png?itok=H7TSWctG https://www.cleanenergywire.org/sites/default/files/styles/g... https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/rising-carbon-prices-led-drop-german-emissions-2019-68112519 https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/rising-carbon-pric... https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/transport-and-heating-tarnish-germanys-emission-cuts-2019-researchers https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/transport-and-heating-t...