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Something I realized recently is that all of these sites have analytics. They can see exactly what percentage of their users are on Firefox, and that will direc

by _bxg1 7y ago

Something I realized recently is that all of these sites have analytics. They can see exactly what percentage of their users are on Firefox, and that will directly drive their dev priorities. Using Firefox isn't just a symbolic gesture; it's a direct vote in its favor.

dexen 7y ago
>all of these sites have analytics. The analytics is most likely blocked by common adblock rules. And present-day Firefox users are quite likely to be advanced users, running adblock. Thus Firefox ends up being under-represented in the analytics.
- ohazi 7y ago
  Do as blockers typically block the user agent? Or have people just gotten lazy and only bother looking at JavaScript generated analytics logs and not actual server logs? Or have user agents devolved to the point where every browser lists every other browser and you genuinely can't tell them apart anymore? Seems like you should still be able to identify the browser without a fancy analytics package.
  - dblohm7 7y ago
    > Or have people just gotten lazy and only bother looking at JavaScript generated analytics logs and not actual server logs? Yes
  - PeterisP 7y ago
    > have people just gotten lazy and only bother looking at JavaScript generated analytics logs and not actual server logs? Yes. On the other hand, if you're running adblock, many sites probably don't care how and if the site works for you.
    - marcosdumay 7y ago
      Sites that are directly taking your money should care. Or, at least, I would expect them to, but they don't seem to care at all.
matthewbauer 7y ago
Recently there has been a push to remove user agents since it tends to make tracking easier. You should make sure firefox is still identifiable.
thdrdt 7y ago
Well because a lot of Firefox users block analytics they won't show up in the stats. And by the way: it is estimated that 60% of all internet users block analytics. So take your stats with a grain of salt.
- hastes 7y ago
  > it is estimated that 60% of all internet users block analytics. So take your stats with a grain of salt. Source?

by _bxg1 7y ago

dexen 7y ago

>all of these sites have analytics. The analytics is most likely blocked by common adblock rules. And present-day Firefox users are quite likely to be advanced users, running adblock. Thus Firefox ends up being under-represented in the analytics.

ohazi 7y ago
Do as blockers typically block the user agent? Or have people just gotten lazy and only bother looking at JavaScript generated analytics logs and not actual server logs? Or have user agents devolved to the point where every browser lists every other browser and you genuinely can't tell them apart anymore? Seems like you should still be able to identify the browser without a fancy analytics package.
- dblohm7 7y ago
  > Or have people just gotten lazy and only bother looking at JavaScript generated analytics logs and not actual server logs? Yes
- PeterisP 7y ago
  > have people just gotten lazy and only bother looking at JavaScript generated analytics logs and not actual server logs? Yes. On the other hand, if you're running adblock, many sites probably don't care how and if the site works for you.
  - marcosdumay 7y ago
    Sites that are directly taking your money should care. Or, at least, I would expect them to, but they don't seem to care at all.

matthewbauer 7y ago

Recently there has been a push to remove user agents since it tends to make tracking easier. You should make sure firefox is still identifiable.

thdrdt 7y ago

Well because a lot of Firefox users block analytics they won't show up in the stats. And by the way: it is estimated that 60% of all internet users block analytics. So take your stats with a grain of salt.

hastes 7y ago
> it is estimated that 60% of all internet users block analytics. So take your stats with a grain of salt. Source?