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I'm intrigued about the possibility of using these as stock photos - it dies away with the need for model permissions (or does it?). Presumably the copyright on

I'm intrigued about the possibility of using these as stock photos - it dies away with the need for model permissions (or does it?). Presumably the copyright on the image resides with the person who ... programmed the neural net? Trained the neural net? Is running the server?

Someone 7y ago
I would guess the one picking the photos and training parameters would have the largest part of the copyright. Whether courts will decide others have some rights to is TBD. The persons whose images the net was trained with also might have, certainly if the network was trained with only a few images.
- mcv 7y ago
  How does copyright work when you have no idea the photo even exists? Are these photos dynamically generated on the fly when a page is loaded? Because if so, then the visitor is the only person to have seen that particular photo, and there'd be no way for any copyright owner to even know they might hold the copyright over that particular photo.
buboard 7y ago
well if you do, please train a dataset that is a bit more zoomed out.
amelius 7y ago
>I'm intrigued about the possibility of using these as stock photos Another (darker) possibility is to generate copyrighted images. Once you have (say) a trillion photos, it will be hard to generate a new one that doesn't look (in essence) like one you already have.
- mkl 7y ago
  Copyright doesn't work that way: "copyrights can only be infringed if the infringer has access to the copyrighted work and engages in actual copying of the work" https://www.trademarkwise.com/blog/2015/2/4/copyright-infringement-or-coincidence https://www.trademarkwise.com/blog/2015/2/4/copyright-infrin..., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantial_similarity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantial_similarity
  - amelius 7y ago
    That sounds very theoretical though.
slig 7y ago
There's a company that sells license to those photos: https://generated.photos/ https://generated.photos/ and they have a FAQ with some of these questions.

Someone 7y ago

I would guess the one picking the photos and training parameters would have the largest part of the copyright. Whether courts will decide others have some rights to is TBD. The persons whose images the net was trained with also might have, certainly if the network was trained with only a few images.

mcv 7y ago
How does copyright work when you have no idea the photo even exists? Are these photos dynamically generated on the fly when a page is loaded? Because if so, then the visitor is the only person to have seen that particular photo, and there'd be no way for any copyright owner to even know they might hold the copyright over that particular photo.

buboard 7y ago

well if you do, please train a dataset that is a bit more zoomed out.

amelius 7y ago

>I'm intrigued about the possibility of using these as stock photos Another (darker) possibility is to generate copyrighted images. Once you have (say) a trillion photos, it will be hard to generate a new one that doesn't look (in essence) like one you already have.

mkl 7y ago
Copyright doesn't work that way: "copyrights can only be infringed if the infringer has access to the copyrighted work and engages in actual copying of the work" https://www.trademarkwise.com/blog/2015/2/4/copyright-infringement-or-coincidence https://www.trademarkwise.com/blog/2015/2/4/copyright-infrin..., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantial_similarity https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Substantial_similarity
- amelius 7y ago
  That sounds very theoretical though.

slig 7y ago

There's a company that sells license to those photos: https://generated.photos/ https://generated.photos/ and they have a FAQ with some of these questions.