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Random note: the word "kava" is Tongan, not Fijian. In Fiji, it's called yaqona, pronounced "yanggona". I also don't think kava is ever going to take off worl

Random note: the word "kava" is Tongan, not Fijian. In Fiji, it's called yaqona, pronounced "yanggona". I also don't think kava is ever going to take off worldwide until they figure out a way to deal with the taste and appearance. It's not actively terrible, but it really does look and taste like a muddy puddle.

markdown 7y ago
> Random note: the word "kava" is Tongan, not Fijian. In Fiji, it's called yaqona, pronounced "yanggona". This is correct. However, kava is the word used in the west, in international trade, and in the Codex Alimentarius. > I also don't think kava is ever going to take off worldwide until they figure out a way to deal with the taste and appearance. Kava drinkers hope that never happens. Kava is difficult to grow and already expensive. Having it become more popular would only serve to increase prices beyond what the average person can afford. Also, I reckon the taste is a feature, not a bug. It keeps the kids away from it lol
z3ncyberpunk 7y ago
Agreed, a muddy puddle is perfect. Friends wanted me to try some at a local kava bar. The buzz I got from a "double dose" drink was basically a decently mild nicotine buzz except my mouth went numb a bit like after getting a novacaine shot. Not really for me.
- flukus 7y ago
  Keep in mind the strength varies wildly, even on pacific islands the difference between bars 10 minutes apart can vary and the tourists ones are generally much more watered down, or so I've been told. I had the opportunity to go to a locals bar in Vanuatu and 2 cups was like being severely stoned, right down to the room spinning and the desire to vomit. I had considerably more at a tourist trap and could barely feel the effects. Really flushes out the internals too.
  - 9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago
    Fun fact: even in Fiji, Vanuatu kava is sold at a premium. The cheaper/stronger varieties are known in pidgin as tudei kava (as in, 2 day) because that's how long the buzz/hangover lasts.
    - markdown 7y ago
      > even in Fiji, Vanuatu kava is sold at a premium Not true. In fact Vanuatu kava is hard to Fiji in Fiji despite the fact that so much of it is imported. Tudei kava, when imported to Fiji (and the US) is usually mixed in with Fijian kava to temper the horrible side-effects. > The cheaper/stronger varieties are known in pidgin as tudei kava (as in, 2 day) because that's how long the buzz/hangover lasts. Stronger yes, but not at all in a good way. Think headaches, horrible nausea, and worse. Hence the export of tudei kava is banned in Vanuatu except for if the buyer explicitly requests it. Tudei kava should not be sold for recreational consumption and its use is strongly discouraged.
- PascLeRasc 7y ago
  I guess we're totally different because this sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.
derangedHorse 7y ago
I don't think people particularly mind those things. At least at the kava bar I go to, I've never heard any of my friends be too hesitant to drink it after seeing its appearance or after taking their first sip. After a large quantity, the flavor does start to make me want to vomit though lol

markdown 7y ago

> Random note: the word "kava" is Tongan, not Fijian. In Fiji, it's called yaqona, pronounced "yanggona". This is correct. However, kava is the word used in the west, in international trade, and in the Codex Alimentarius. > I also don't think kava is ever going to take off worldwide until they figure out a way to deal with the taste and appearance. Kava drinkers hope that never happens. Kava is difficult to grow and already expensive. Having it become more popular would only serve to increase prices beyond what the average person can afford. Also, I reckon the taste is a feature, not a bug. It keeps the kids away from it lol

z3ncyberpunk 7y ago

Agreed, a muddy puddle is perfect. Friends wanted me to try some at a local kava bar. The buzz I got from a "double dose" drink was basically a decently mild nicotine buzz except my mouth went numb a bit like after getting a novacaine shot. Not really for me.

flukus 7y ago
Keep in mind the strength varies wildly, even on pacific islands the difference between bars 10 minutes apart can vary and the tourists ones are generally much more watered down, or so I've been told. I had the opportunity to go to a locals bar in Vanuatu and 2 cups was like being severely stoned, right down to the room spinning and the desire to vomit. I had considerably more at a tourist trap and could barely feel the effects. Really flushes out the internals too.
- 9nGQluzmnq3M 7y ago
  Fun fact: even in Fiji, Vanuatu kava is sold at a premium. The cheaper/stronger varieties are known in pidgin as tudei kava (as in, 2 day) because that's how long the buzz/hangover lasts.
  - markdown 7y ago
    > even in Fiji, Vanuatu kava is sold at a premium Not true. In fact Vanuatu kava is hard to Fiji in Fiji despite the fact that so much of it is imported. Tudei kava, when imported to Fiji (and the US) is usually mixed in with Fijian kava to temper the horrible side-effects. > The cheaper/stronger varieties are known in pidgin as tudei kava (as in, 2 day) because that's how long the buzz/hangover lasts. Stronger yes, but not at all in a good way. Think headaches, horrible nausea, and worse. Hence the export of tudei kava is banned in Vanuatu except for if the buyer explicitly requests it. Tudei kava should not be sold for recreational consumption and its use is strongly discouraged.
PascLeRasc 7y ago
I guess we're totally different because this sounds like exactly what I'm looking for.

derangedHorse 7y ago

I don't think people particularly mind those things. At least at the kava bar I go to, I've never heard any of my friends be too hesitant to drink it after seeing its appearance or after taking their first sip. After a large quantity, the flavor does start to make me want to vomit though lol