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>Proprietary drivers on Linux are often crap, if they even exist at all. Not so with Nvidia GPUs. The open drivers are awful; the proprietary drivers are good.

>Proprietary drivers on Linux are often crap, if they even exist at all. Not so with Nvidia GPUs. The open drivers are awful; the proprietary drivers are good. (But IS the case with AMD GPUs, to the point where the proprietary driver seems to perform worse[0] and everyone pretends it doesn't even exist, which is upside down unintuitive coming from A.) Windows and B.) Nvidia.) 0: https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-amd-tday2016&num=2 https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia-a...

OvermindDL1 7y ago
As a developer however, nvidia's closed source drivers are buggy as hell. The amount of issues and times they break the spec is astounding and a constant annoyance. AMD and Intel via the open Mesa drivers are blissful in comparison, plus the amazing debuggability.
axegon_ 7y ago
I have to use their proprietary drivers and I beg to differ. Nvidia drivers are still crap, given all the pain you have to endure to get them running. Yes, nvidia has managed to sneak into the linux world through cuda but as far as ease of use, they are still nothing short of crap. Not to mention if you want to use anything other than ubuntu.
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babypuncher 7y ago
I would argue that Nouveau is bad purely because of poor performance, and the proprietary drivers are tolerable but perform well once you have them working. One thing I can say for Nouveau over the proprietary drivers is that they actually work without any real fuss. I've run into numerous instances where the proprietary drivers would prevent the system from booting. And I've yet to get them to work at all with any realtime kernel in Manjaro. And then we get into the nightmare that is any laptop with an integrated Intel GPU and a dedicated Nvidia GPU...
- shrimp_emoji 7y ago
  >I would argue that Nouveau is bad purely because of poor performance That and, if you have a G-SYNC monitor (which, in retrospect, you shouldn't, but I and several friends of mine do), it won't work at all with the Nouveau driver. :D
Polylactic_acid 7y ago
The proprietary drivers are not "good". They don't support Wayland which has been the default on many distros for years. They also don't support prerelease or custom kernels. I had to build a custom kernel to include some patches for new hardware I just got and found out it was impossible for me to use the nvidia drivers on it. I ended up getting an AMD card because of that.
thenewnewguy 7y ago
> Not so with Nvidia GPUs. The open drivers are awful; the proprietary drivers are good. Good by comparison to nouveau (the open source driver) perhaps, but definitely not good compared to the open source intel/AMD drivers.
- lmm 7y ago
  Not my experience. They work reliably and perform well. AMD drivers don't.

OvermindDL1 7y ago

As a developer however, nvidia's closed source drivers are buggy as hell. The amount of issues and times they break the spec is astounding and a constant annoyance. AMD and Intel via the open Mesa drivers are blissful in comparison, plus the amazing debuggability.

axegon_ 7y ago

I have to use their proprietary drivers and I beg to differ. Nvidia drivers are still crap, given all the pain you have to endure to get them running. Yes, nvidia has managed to sneak into the linux world through cuda but as far as ease of use, they are still nothing short of crap. Not to mention if you want to use anything other than ubuntu.

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babypuncher 7y ago

I would argue that Nouveau is bad purely because of poor performance, and the proprietary drivers are tolerable but perform well once you have them working. One thing I can say for Nouveau over the proprietary drivers is that they actually work without any real fuss. I've run into numerous instances where the proprietary drivers would prevent the system from booting. And I've yet to get them to work at all with any realtime kernel in Manjaro. And then we get into the nightmare that is any laptop with an integrated Intel GPU and a dedicated Nvidia GPU...

shrimp_emoji 7y ago
>I would argue that Nouveau is bad purely because of poor performance That and, if you have a G-SYNC monitor (which, in retrospect, you shouldn't, but I and several friends of mine do), it won't work at all with the Nouveau driver. :D

Polylactic_acid 7y ago

The proprietary drivers are not "good". They don't support Wayland which has been the default on many distros for years. They also don't support prerelease or custom kernels. I had to build a custom kernel to include some patches for new hardware I just got and found out it was impossible for me to use the nvidia drivers on it. I ended up getting an AMD card because of that.

thenewnewguy 7y ago

> Not so with Nvidia GPUs. The open drivers are awful; the proprietary drivers are good. Good by comparison to nouveau (the open source driver) perhaps, but definitely not good compared to the open source intel/AMD drivers.

lmm 7y ago
Not my experience. They work reliably and perform well. AMD drivers don't.