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Ahh the good ol HN "stop using Google and start using Firefox" advertisement. It's a bit odd to see this in every Google thread. Btw, Firefox is too slow.

fortran77 7y ago
It's not odd at all. It's what the folks at Mozilla do. They jump in to every thread to push Firefox and Rust and make people think it's more widely used/better than it is.
- falcolas 7y ago
  Not everything is a conspiracy. I'm not a Mozilla employee, have never been one (probably never will be one). Firefox is awesome, fast, and extensible. It's my daily driver for all of my machines.
  - SamPatt 7y ago
    Same. It works great and uses less RAM than Chrome.
  - bonestamp2 7y ago
    Side question: I've been trying to switch to firefox as my main browser but one thing is holding me up. When I'm using a private window, cookies are not shared between private tabs. I can see the advantage to that behavior, but is there a way to share them so that I can be logged into the same site in multiple private tabs? Unironically, I haven't had any luck googling this problem.
    - falcolas 7y ago
      If you open a new tab from an existing tab, your session persists across tabs. So, for example, middle clicking on the Hacker News logo will preserve your HN session across tabs.
      - bonestamp2 7y ago
        Huh, this is how I expected it to work and it does work for hacker news but it doesn't work for one site I want it to work for. I'll have to dig deeper, thanks.
    - lordnacho 7y ago
      You can make as many separate containers as you like, where each tab shares the cookies with all the other tabs in that container. For example, I have a Facebook container that only shares with Messenger and none of the other tabs. I can see it works because sites that are logged in on one container are not logged in on others. It's easy to right-click and reopen a tab in one of your other containers.
- dropdrive 7y ago
  And then? I use it and judge it bases on it's merits. Surely they know this (and hence decided it's worth the time?)
- fortyseven 7y ago
  People who push conspiracies without solid evidence should be jailed. Or at least publicly ridiculed.
- detritus 7y ago
  I work for Mozilla? Huh. I should ask for a pay rise...
- jeltz 7y ago
  I think most people who advocate Firefox are not Mozilla employees. I am for sure not one, I do not even like Mozilla, but they are a much lesser evil compared to Google. And I think having multiple competing browsers is vital for preventing the internet for becoming a walled garden owned by some big corporation.
throwawa66 7y ago
You must be a google toolhead employee not to see how evil they’ve become
- dang 7y ago
  This breaks the site guidelines. Please don't do that, regardless of how wrong someone else is or how bad another comment is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - throwawa66 7y ago
    Ok, will try to fit within the guidlines
Ohn0 7y ago
Isn't moz pretty much funded by google?
- VWWHFSfQ 7y ago
  as a defense against antitrust accusations. microsoft once funded apple too
DangerousPie 7y ago
Could it be because people who like their browser tend to tell others about it? I have absolutely nothing to do with Mozilla but I think the internet would be a better place if more people used Firefox.
basscomm 7y ago
> Btw, Firefox is too slow. Ahh, the good ol' "Firefox is too slow for me to consider it" statement. Is there any evidence that Firefox is slower then Chrome other than old lingering memories of Firefox being slow ten years ago? I have used both Firefox and Chrome and I can't subjectively tell that one is significantly faster or slower than the other. To be fair, I only have a handful of extensions and rarely have more than ten tabs open at a time, so my use case may be atypical.
- rryan 7y ago
  I love that Firefox exists and Quantum is an amazing step forward, but Firefox still regularly runs away with gigabytes of RAM and hung worker processes. I have no problem with long-lived Chrome sessions but I need to restart Firefox ~daily. It's not bad memories of 10-years ago.
  - Monotonic 7y ago
    I've been using Firefox as my daily browser at work, home, and on my mobile devices, and I've literally never had issues with Firefox taking up too much RAM. Chrome on the other hand was always one of the main culprits when my computer(s) would start to slow down. This is the problem with anecdotal evidence; everybody's subjective experiences are slightly different and further colored with their own biases, so you can never get hard facts out of it.
  - mrguyorama 7y ago
    And yet Chrome consuming huge amounts of RAM is an actual meme
  - pier25 7y ago
    Same for me. I've been using FF for a couple of months and I get huge random CPU spikes on my MBP that go away once I restart it. It works fine on my iMac and Windows tower though albeit JS execution seems slower (I mostly work on front end stuff). It also seems to consume more battery on Android than Chrome although I admit I've never made any serious testing.
- 7y ago
Blaiz0r 7y ago
Firefox isn't too slow, but you might be talking about how Google optimise their sites for Chrome at the expense of Firefox's performance through browser sniffing.
dang 7y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22236328 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22236328.

fortran77 7y ago

It's not odd at all. It's what the folks at Mozilla do. They jump in to every thread to push Firefox and Rust and make people think it's more widely used/better than it is.

falcolas 7y ago
Not everything is a conspiracy. I'm not a Mozilla employee, have never been one (probably never will be one). Firefox is awesome, fast, and extensible. It's my daily driver for all of my machines.
- SamPatt 7y ago
  Same. It works great and uses less RAM than Chrome.
- bonestamp2 7y ago
  Side question: I've been trying to switch to firefox as my main browser but one thing is holding me up. When I'm using a private window, cookies are not shared between private tabs. I can see the advantage to that behavior, but is there a way to share them so that I can be logged into the same site in multiple private tabs? Unironically, I haven't had any luck googling this problem.
  - falcolas 7y ago
    If you open a new tab from an existing tab, your session persists across tabs. So, for example, middle clicking on the Hacker News logo will preserve your HN session across tabs.
    - bonestamp2 7y ago
      Huh, this is how I expected it to work and it does work for hacker news but it doesn't work for one site I want it to work for. I'll have to dig deeper, thanks.
  - lordnacho 7y ago
    You can make as many separate containers as you like, where each tab shares the cookies with all the other tabs in that container. For example, I have a Facebook container that only shares with Messenger and none of the other tabs. I can see it works because sites that are logged in on one container are not logged in on others. It's easy to right-click and reopen a tab in one of your other containers.
dropdrive 7y ago
And then? I use it and judge it bases on it's merits. Surely they know this (and hence decided it's worth the time?)
fortyseven 7y ago
People who push conspiracies without solid evidence should be jailed. Or at least publicly ridiculed.
detritus 7y ago
I work for Mozilla? Huh. I should ask for a pay rise...
jeltz 7y ago
I think most people who advocate Firefox are not Mozilla employees. I am for sure not one, I do not even like Mozilla, but they are a much lesser evil compared to Google. And I think having multiple competing browsers is vital for preventing the internet for becoming a walled garden owned by some big corporation.

throwawa66 7y ago

You must be a google toolhead employee not to see how evil they’ve become

dang 7y ago
This breaks the site guidelines. Please don't do that, regardless of how wrong someone else is or how bad another comment is. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- throwawa66 7y ago
  Ok, will try to fit within the guidlines

Ohn0 7y ago

Isn't moz pretty much funded by google?

VWWHFSfQ 7y ago
as a defense against antitrust accusations. microsoft once funded apple too

DangerousPie 7y ago

Could it be because people who like their browser tend to tell others about it? I have absolutely nothing to do with Mozilla but I think the internet would be a better place if more people used Firefox.

basscomm 7y ago

> Btw, Firefox is too slow. Ahh, the good ol' "Firefox is too slow for me to consider it" statement. Is there any evidence that Firefox is slower then Chrome other than old lingering memories of Firefox being slow ten years ago? I have used both Firefox and Chrome and I can't subjectively tell that one is significantly faster or slower than the other. To be fair, I only have a handful of extensions and rarely have more than ten tabs open at a time, so my use case may be atypical.

rryan 7y ago
I love that Firefox exists and Quantum is an amazing step forward, but Firefox still regularly runs away with gigabytes of RAM and hung worker processes. I have no problem with long-lived Chrome sessions but I need to restart Firefox ~daily. It's not bad memories of 10-years ago.
- Monotonic 7y ago
  I've been using Firefox as my daily browser at work, home, and on my mobile devices, and I've literally never had issues with Firefox taking up too much RAM. Chrome on the other hand was always one of the main culprits when my computer(s) would start to slow down. This is the problem with anecdotal evidence; everybody's subjective experiences are slightly different and further colored with their own biases, so you can never get hard facts out of it.
- mrguyorama 7y ago
  And yet Chrome consuming huge amounts of RAM is an actual meme
- pier25 7y ago
  Same for me. I've been using FF for a couple of months and I get huge random CPU spikes on my MBP that go away once I restart it. It works fine on my iMac and Windows tower though albeit JS execution seems slower (I mostly work on front end stuff). It also seems to consume more battery on Android than Chrome although I admit I've never made any serious testing.
7y ago

Blaiz0r 7y ago

Firefox isn't too slow, but you might be talking about how Google optimise their sites for Chrome at the expense of Firefox's performance through browser sniffing.

dang 7y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22236328 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22236328.