I would recommend the entire episode, it was very good. Only a small part is about Rust. I’ve listened to plenty of interviews and talks/rants by Jonathan Blow

I would recommend the entire episode, it was very good. Only a small part is about Rust. I’ve listened to plenty of interviews and talks/rants by Jonathan Blow, and while I think he has a lot of interesting ideas, he also has a well earned reputation for being very blunt in how he expresses his opinions. Bryan Cantrill was an excellent interviewer, and managed to bring out the best side of Blow.